No chance of Floyd vs PAC super fight

[IronDanHamza]

that is not an unprecedented request when you fail to make weight in your last fight.

because he hadnt. how was he the bigger fighter when pacman was p4p number 1 at the time? ppv numbers were similar also so i dont know wtf you are going on about.

Well, it is unprecedented because he hadn't requested it up to that point. You have an issue with that, don't you?

He failed to make 144. There was absolutely nothing to suggest that he would miss the weight at 147.

[megadeth]

Floyd fans will act like everyone in the damn Philippines isn't going to tune in for the fight, not to mention tons of countries in Asia.. Manny has a huge backing across the board and I really doubt anybody who is a fan of Manny Pacquiao wouldn't want to see him face the #1 P4P.

How does this make a difference? All big fights are on free TV in the Philippines and I would bet most parts of Asia as well.

If Manny is out of his league take the biggest payday he can get, obviously Manny is willing to take the bloodtests that will weaken him now so why not? Oh wait, Manny isn't in his league..

You obviously believe EVERYTHING that comes out of Manny's mouth huh?

Lets just ignore the fact Manny was named Fighter of the Decade, and was at the #1 P4P spot because Floyd "retired"

How is that relevant if Pac isn't the same fighter that he was before. Rios will give us some idea, and I want to see the fight as well, but to say he was Fighter of the Decade and P4P#1 means nothing. So was RJJ, should Floyd fight him as well?

[shade darkar]

Well, it is unprecedented because he hadn't requested it up to that point. You have an issue with that, don't you?

He failed to make 144. There was absolutely nothing to suggest that he would miss the weight at 147.

exactly, so it wasnt a big deal. everyone knew he would make 47. but the point still stands, it was justified because mayweather agreed to 144 and didnt do it. hence why marquez got an extra 600k.

[The Big Dunn]

that is not an unprecedented request when you fail to make weight in your last fight.

because he hadnt. how was he the bigger fighter when pacman was p4p number 1 at the time? ppv numbers were similar also so i dont know wtf you are going on about.

See irondanhamza's post regarding 1st paragraph.

Manny was #1 because floyd had retired. we all know this and it has no bearing on who the bigger selling fighter was.

PPV numbers were similar-but floyd's were bigger. Period. If it was the other way around you'd simply say it instead of pointing out how close they were.

It just seems manny and his fans are most annoyed that they couldn't just get what they wanted.

[BlackSnakeMamba]

That's the point. Pacquiao and most other top pros don't fight by the old standards of commission testing. It doesn't make them all ducks, just wiser than before....... INCLUDING Pacquiao. You still didn't answer my question. Why do you think Pacquiao now demands testing against Rios that he never requested or participated in before? Don't duck it with flippancy this time.

Because Alex Ariza is now working with Team Rios.

[megadeth]

none. how many times had he agreed to a weight and then failed to make it? once. thats how its justified. he agreed to a 144 catchweight and didnt adhere to it.

You can't even say that because the contract was changed. If someone agrees to a change in the contract, before the weigh in, then the previous contract is null and void. You can't go back after the agreement and say that he "failed to make weight". How did he fail to make weight when they changed the contract before the weigh in? Sorry, it is NOT justified.

And by the way, who is Pac anyway to put ANY weight penalties in, when he was overweight not once but TWICE in his career?

[The Big Dunn]

exactly, so it wasnt a big deal. everyone knew he would make 47. but the point still stands, it was justified because mayweather agreed to 144 and didnt do it. hence why marquez got an extra 600k.

so if everyone knew pac was clean-the ped request would be no big deal because everyone knew he'd test negative. right?

[shade darkar]

See irondanhamza's post regarding 1st paragraph.

Manny was #1 because floyd had retired. we all know this and it has no bearing on who the bigger selling fighter was.

PPV numbers were similar-but floyd's were bigger. Period. If it was the other way around you'd simply say it instead of pointing out how close they were.

It just seems manny and his fans are most annoyed that they couldn't just get what they wanted.

im sure manny and all the boxing fans around the world, other than you seemingly, are disappointed that the fight didnt happen.

[IronDanHamza]

none. how many times had he agreed to a weight and then failed to make it? once. thats how its justified. he agreed to a 144 catchweight and didnt adhere to it.

Again, the fight was at 147.

Everyone with a grain of sense knows that Mayweather is not going to come in over 147.

Still, he asked for 10 Million per pound like a "Master" to his slave and it was easily accepted like you'd expect.

Can't say the same for everyone in that negotiation.

I mean, it's a simple request. It's not unreasonable.

The fact a guy can refuse a drug test, leading to a fight falling through and it be all fine and dandy is just outright ridiculous.

As are your double standards on the matter.

[shade darkar]

You can't even say that because the contract was changed. If someone agrees to a change in the contract, before the weigh in, then the previous contract is null and void. You can't go back after the agreement and say that he "failed to make weight". How did he fail to make weight when they changed the contract before the weigh in? Sorry, it is NOT justified.

And by the way, who is Pac anyway to put ANY weight penalties in, when he was overweight not once but TWICE in his career?

yeah, the contract was changed after he failed to make weight. did marquez look like he knew? i dont think so.