No chance of Floyd vs PAC super fight

[shade darkar]

paper titles in different weight classes is not how you definitively define greatness. Hagler has one title and he is better than Pac in every way.

Bradley is ranked higher by every reputable boxing writer and publication because he is in better form than Pac right now. That's how rankings work...its not what youve dont over 15 years.

hardly paper titles when 4 of them are lineal. not buying the form crap, pacman always has been and always will be a much better fighter than tim bradley. if you are going on form then surely you would have to rank bradley above mayweather then? provodnikov and marquez are greater than canelo and guerrero.

[The Big Dunn]

we can agree it meant more in 09 certainly. im not a huge manny fan actually, im a huge boxing fan. the simple fact that he is an 8 weight world champion means he is relevant. thats 3 weight classes more than mayweather.

only an idiot ranks tim bradley above pacman. i think martinez is there for the taking, and p4p pacman is better than martinez. but we all know mayweather isnt going to 160, certainly when he is scared to fight a 5 foot 6 junior welterweight.

what does more weight class wins have to do with current relevance? is Henry Armstrong relevant right now? Geez.

Bradley is ranked above Manny in every ww and p4p ranking out. EVERY!!! I thought tim lost to manny but he did get the win and then beat the guy who KO'd manny. ANyway you cut it manny is 3rd. You don't have to agree but its probably healthier to accept it.

Sergio is higher p4p than manny. Geez shade! Again, you don't have to agree but as the mature thing to do is accept it. we never know what floyd is going to do.

If offering someone 50/50 and ped testing and then $40 mil, no ppv a sign of being scared, turning those offers down and depriving fans of the fight is far worse.

[The Big Dunn]

hardly paper titles when 4 of them are lineal. not buying the form crap, pacman always has been and always will be a much better fighter than tim bradley. if you are going on form then surely you would have to rank bradley above mayweather then? provodnikov and marquez are greater than canelo and guerrero.

for someone claiming to be "not a big manny fan" but "a boxing" fan, the things you are posting like the above, suggests otherwise.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

hardly paper titles when 4 of them are lineal. not buying the form crap, pacman always has been and always will be a much better fighter than tim bradley. if you are going on form then surely you would have to rank bradley above mayweather then? provodnikov and marquez are greater than canelo and guerrero.

I'm not sure you understand how rankings work.

Well if 4 are lineal...what would the rest be (ahem, David Diaz)? What matters is who you fought and when...lineal titles dont mean as much anymore.

[shade darkar]

what does more weight class wins have to do with current relevance? is Henry Armstrong relevant right now? Geez.

Bradley is ranked above Manny in every ww and p4p ranking out. EVERY!!! I thought tim lost to manny but he did get the win and then beat the guy who KO'd manny. ANyway you cut it manny is 3rd. You don't have to agree but its probably healthier to accept it.

Sergio is higher p4p than manny. Geez shade! Again, you don't have to agree but as the mature thing to do is accept it. we never know what floyd is going to do.

If offering someone 50/50 and ped testing and then $0 mil, no ppv a sign of being scared, turning those offers down and depriving fans of the fight is far worse.

is armstrong still active right now? didnt think so.

well i wont agree because bradley isnt better than pacman.

why should sergio be higher p4p? he just got a hometown decision against martin murray!?

as iv said to you several times, how come floyd refused to fight with the same testing he done his whole career? and answer this one because you never do, why wasnt ricky hatton told to do this testing or no fight? why is it when floyds greatest threat comes along, theres a million excuses? drug tests, cant train in the Philippines, give me fights under mayweather promotions, take no ppv dollars, he "walked through COTTO"!!!!!!!!, i dont like your promoter and all the rest of his BS.

[shade darkar]

for someone claiming to be "not a big manny fan" but "a boxing" fan, the things you are posting like the above, suggests otherwise.

ok well think what you want. we know your a massive mayweather fan and will defend him til the last.

and your the 1 coming across as a fanboy here, who the hell ranks canelo over marquez?????

provodnikov is a better fighter than guerrero in my opinion aswell so.......

[Marvellous1]

I'll answer your question, Shade. Mayweather wanted a higher standard of testing for Pacquiao than he ever did before, for the same reason Pacquiao wants it having never participated before (he now thinks it's good for boxing too, would you believe?).

[shade darkar]

I'll answer your question, Shade. Mayweather wanted a higher standard of testing for Pacquiao than he ever did before, for the same reason Pacquiao wants it having never participated before (he now thinks it's good for boxing too, would you believe?).

so it wasnt because he was brickin it then?

[The Big Dunn]

is armstrong still active right now? didnt think so.

well i wont agree because bradley isnt better than pacman.

why should sergio be higher p4p? he just got a hometown decision against martin murray!?

as iv said to you several times, how come floyd refused to fight with the same testing he done his whole career? and answer this one because you never do, why wasnt ricky hatton told to do this testing or no fight? why is it when floyds greatest threat comes along, theres a million excuses? drug tests, cant train in the Philippines, give me fights under mayweather promotions, take no ppv dollars, he "walked through COTTO"!!!!!!!!, i dont like your promoter and all the rest of his BS.

Agreeing and accepting are two different things.

Yes, but he didn't lose by KO. Come on.

He didn't refuse to fight. he accepted manny's stips then he asked for ped testing and manny refused. Period. why he asked, because he thought manny was cheating. I don't know why he didn't tell hatton that in 2007. thats like me asking you why did Manny ask rios for testing when he didn't ask clottey for it. the 2 have no connection.

Everything else that has happened since then has been the fallout from the decision manny made in 09. Both fighters are responsible for the fight not happening.

ok well think what you want. we know your a massive mayweather fan and will defend him til the last.

and your the 1 coming across as a fanboy here, who the hell ranks canelo over marquez?????

provodnikov is a better fighter than guerrero in my opinion aswell so.......

I didn't call you a fanboy. Yes I am a floyd fan, but I am not defending him. I just think manny is as responsible for the fight not happening, perhaps more so because his refusing to fight in 09 over ped testing ws ego related bull****.

JMM is better than canelo, I didn't say otherwise. But Canelo and Ghost are both more accomplished and more respected than provodnikov. you saying provod is better than ghost is the same as you saying manny is ahead of tim and sergio-it makes you look like you have an agenda.

[shade darkar]

Agreeing and accepting are two different things.

Yes, but he didn't lose by KO. Come on.

He didn't refuse to fight. he accepted manny's stips then he asked for ped testing and manny refused. Period. why he asked, because he thought manny was cheating. I don't know why he didn't tell hatton that in 2007. thats like me asking you why did Manny ask rios for testing when he didn't ask clottey for it. the 2 have no connection.

Everything else that has happened since then has been the fallout from the decision manny made in 09. Both fighters are responsible for the fight not happening.




I didn't call you a fanboy. Yes I am a floyd fan, but I am not defending him. I just think manny is as responsible for the fight not happening, perhaps more so because his refusing to fight in 09 over ped testing ws ego related bull****.

JMM is better than canelo, I didn't say otherwise. But Canelo and Ghost are both more accomplished and more respected than provodnikov. you saying provod is better than ghost is the same as you saying manny is ahead of tim and sergio-it makes you look like you have an agenda.

im really not bothered what it looks like. it is what it is. mayweather did refuse to fight because he didnt get the extra testing. you will say pacman refused to fight because he didnt do the extra testing. its swings and roundabouts.

ill tell you why he didnt say it to hatton, its because he was very confident he would beat the hitman, and he had minimal risk to his 0 and therefore his marketability. with pacman came a far greater risk, after all he walked through cotto as floyd says.

im saying provodnikov is better than the ghost. no doubt about it. i think anybody that rates bradley over pacman is delusional.