Sergio Martinez is Slick?

[Chrismart]

I'd consider Martinez a pretty slick fighter.

[New England]

It was actually Tenma who mentioned Morales I think, I got you guys confused because you both sound like the same guy and I guess it doesn't matter because you both appear to think the same anyway.

So how about Morales now? How did he look after his athleticism left him?

And Martinez was fighting with a broken hand and a torn ACL, he fought about as well as anyone else with those kind of injuries could have fought.

Boxing is a sport, athleticism is a part of slickness, ring IQ is not slickness. Roy Jones was a slick fighter because he had excellent speed, movement, reflexes and athleticism. Keep in mind that a slick fighter isn't necessarily a great fighter, slickness is more of a style (it's an adjective).

You seem to be getting ring IQ confused w/slickness... but that's okay, you're entitled to your opinion. Slickness is a very subjective term and we clearly have different definitions.

he got a win over manny pacquiao...

i'm not getting anything confused, man. you're wrong, especailly about erik morales. frankly, i don't know how much of his fights you've seen.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Slick fighter aren't Orthodox fighters, having solid boxing fundamentals does not make you a slick fighter.

The dictionary definition of slick (an adj.) is "Smooth and slippery," I don't think it necessarily applies to orthodox fighters. You can be a very fundamentally sound fighter and not be slick. I see slickness as a style more than the epitome of what effective boxing should be. I think Roy Jones was the epitome of slickness, he fought in a very unorthodox manner using awkward angles and moves (also athleticism) that confused his opponents; same goes w/Sugar Ray Leonard and Mohammad Ali.

Your definitely not getting my point at all. Not once did I say the bold either, responding with Boxing 101 is overused man, being able to apply feinting successfully or the process in how it's applied is different then just trying to do it. You said feinting doesn't make one slick by saying it's boxing 101, which was a ******ed response man.

[Chris Collins]

I've never really thought of Martinez as slick, like other posters have said he's athletic but not really slick.

[BafanaBafana]

he got a win over manny pacquiao...

i'm not getting anything confused, man. you're wrong, especailly about erik morales. frankly, i don't know how much of his fights you've seen.

Beating Manny Pacquiao does not make you a slick fighter; Duran beating Leonard in the first fight did not mean or prove he was slick or slicker than Leonard. And I asked where is Morales now w/o his athleticism, I didn't ask what has he done (that would be ******ed). I like Erik Morales, he's one of my favorite Mexican fighter (possibly 2nd after Barrera), but he is not a slick fighter.

Slickness is a style, it is not the epitome of what fundamentally effective boxing should be.

[BafanaBafana]

Your definitely not getting my point at all. Not once did I say the bold either, responding with Boxing 101 is overused man, being able to apply feinting successfully or the process in how it's applied is different then just trying to do it. You said feinting doesn't make one slick by saying it's boxing 101, which was a ******ed response man.

Your comments clearly alluded to that, you seem a bit confused like you don't really know where your going...

Now read the rest of my post:

The dictionary definition of slick (an adj.) is "Smooth and slippery," I don't think it necessarily applies to orthodox fighters. You can be a very fundamentally sound fighter and not be slick. I see slickness as a style more than the epitome of what effective boxing should be. I think Roy Jones was the epitome of slickness, he fought in a very unorthodox manner using awkward angles and moves (also athleticism) that confused his opponents; same goes w/Sugar Ray Leonard and Mohammad Ali.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Your comments clearly alluded to that, you seem a bit confused like you don't really know where your going...

Now read the rest of my post:

Point it out then, I responded to the ******ity of saying boxing 101, everything that occurs in that ring is boxing 101 to a large extent, how it's applied determines whether it's slick or not, more so if applied successfully.

That was my response to,

"All fighters occasionally feint to set up power punches (its boxing 101), however, I don't think being able to feint makes you (whether it's Morales or anyone else) a slick fighter"

If your one that can consistently fool your opponent into taking the bait successfully, then your slick, it's really that simple.

[HanzGruber]

i think you need to have good defense to be "slick" martinez's is avg at best

[BattleAxePurist]

The fact Morales was able to compete so late into his career shows how slick/great a boxer he was when he wanted/had to.

[BafanaBafana]

Point it out then, I responded to the ******ity of saying boxing 101, everything that occurs in that ring is boxing 101 to a large extent, how it's applied determines whether it's slick or not, more so if applied successfully.

That was my response to,

"All fighters occasionally feint to set up power punches (its boxing 101), however, I don't think being able to feint makes you (whether it's Morales or anyone else) a slick fighter"

If your one that can consistently fool your opponent into taking the bait successfully, then your slick, it's really that simple.

Feinting IS boxing 101, however, knowing when and how to feint effectively is a great skill to have, but this ability does not make one fight in a slick style.

Fighters like Roy Jones, Mohammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Sweet Pea Pernell, Mayweather, Naseem, etc. those guys fought in a style that can be defined as slick, Morales was a very good fighter, but he did not fight with a slick style.