After watching GGG against Stevens..

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Originally Posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.

Stevens never won a round? Lmao the GGG d*ckriding is strong in this one.


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Which round(s) did he win?

According to you none so why bother arguing? Too early for that ****.


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[#1Assassin]

It's quite clear he can easily be outboxed and counter. People talk about his jab and how well he uses it but when Stevens was getting a rhythm in some rounds he was getting out jabbed. He seem to have to reset everything he was trying to do once Stevens hit him. Also he shows that he can only come forward and need medium range to get off his shots. His distance and using angles aren't very smart.. He will get ****d shortly once a true boxer get in the ring with him. He's good but not great.. Matthyse was better than him.

you are either trolling or you dont know **** about boxing.

stevens is a very good fighter, there isnt a MW in the world he wont get into a rhythm against in some rounds and do some good work. if anything he does better against the rest of the division, in fact martinez is the only other MW i can see beating him.

he had to reset because of stevens' power, when a guy like that hits you it causes you to get stopped in your tracks momentarily. just like when golovkin hit stevens, they were both slinging some serious leather in there.

there is a possibility that you could smother him inside, i havent seen him do any real good work inside against anyone. so that might be a hole in his game, dont know yet. he can fight well at both mid and long range though, he just couldnt do much good work at long range against stevens because of his style. stevens is too short to land anything of his own on the outside so he just covered up and did a great job of it. sometimes when those short compact guys shell up like that you need to step into mid range where you can mix up your punches and create openings.

he doesnt use a lot of angles, again not necessarily because he cant but because he wants to saty in front of his opponents where he can impose his pressure. his sense of distance is excellent.

if someone is going to beat golovkin it would have to be a boxer, but it would have to be a really god one. the idae that anyone with solid boxing skills beats him is absurd. stevens has a very good amateur background and better than average boxing skills. just because he can punch too doesnt make him a poor technician and the same thing applies to golovkin whos amateur background is simply amazing. you dont win medals in the olympics by not knowing how to box. he fought in all the big international amateur tournaments and beat the likes of dirrell, bute, despaigne, geale and korobov just to name a few.

golovkin can box for sure, he has all the fundamentals and plenty of more advanced technical skills in his arsena as well. he is much better than matthysse, anyone who doesnt see that is either ignorant or trolling.

[Russian Crushin]

According to you none so why bother arguing? Too early for that ****.


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So you cant name any rounds, ok then

[champion4ever]

There's one thing to keep in mind is that Curtis Stevens was flat-footed for the most part of that fight and that was why GGG had no trouble in connecting his punches against him. The only time Curtis moved was when he was hurt.

Golovkin fought a very good strategic fight. By being the natural larger and stronger man, he was able to keep the much smaller man Stevens on the outside and at the end of his punches to get full extension on them.

[#1Assassin]

Which round(s) did he win?

he won one round clearly, i think it was the fifth. te round before was close too. ggg controled the vast majority of it but didnt do much clean work then stevens landed several tremendous punches towards the end better than anything golovkin landed that round. i personally scored that round for golovkin but someone could easily have allowed stevens to steal it. the first round was close too, could have gon either way or been scored even.

regardless, a shut out simply didnt happen. you are a good poster though, probably just got caught up in the action or something. because stevens did win rounds.

[bklynboy]

His defense is very good at parrying punches off his face. Him resetting shows that he isn't very adept at adapting in the ring. Also his choice of standing at bad angles is why he got clipped, he also was leaning in sometimes. He's just a big slower Manny Pacquiao..


What skills? Getting socked?

Take a look at the last minute of the fight. GGG is stalking Stevens on full-attack mode. At about the 0:56 point in the round Stevens throws a right and it parried beautifully. GGG is on full-attack mode and is still paying attention to his d. I'm not saying he's Floyd Mayweather. He's not. But he isn't Arturo Gatti either. You're making him out to be a simple, one-dimensional brawler. He isn't.

He's got good d. He has flaws that may be exploited by the very best. I think the Martinez of a few years ago would have been a great match-up. He would have won many rounds and it may have come down to stamina, conditioning and will-to-win.

You make it sound as if Stevens took the fight to GGG and won some rounds. Stevens may have won 30 seconds in the 4th and 5th round. Could Ward beat GGG? I would love to see that fight. Could Chavez at MW/SMW? (I don't think so.)

But say GGG goes up to SMW and loses does that mean he's exposed? No. It means he's a very good MW but is not an ATG or potential GOAT that some of his fanboyz make him out to be.

[Weebler I]

I don't think Stevens won any rounds clearly, there were one or two 50/50 rounds which you could see going to him as the home fighter. I gave him one late round.

[bklynboy]

he won one round clearly, i think it was the fifth. te round before was close too. ggg controled the vast majority of it but didnt do much clean work then stevens landed several tremendous punches towards the end better than anything golovkin landed that round. i personally scored that round for golovkin but someone could easily have allowed stevens to steal it. the first round was close too, could have gon either way or been scored even.

regardless, a shut out simply didnt happen. you are a good poster though, probably just got caught up in the action or something. because stevens did win rounds.

We saw a different fight then. In both those rounds (the 4th and 5th) Stevens clearly won about 30 seconds. In the fifth (if I remember) he had a second little flurry but aside from that the rounds were clearly GGGs. And it wasn't as if GGG wasn't doing anything. GGG landed some serious leather in both those rounds as well. GGG won every round easily except for those 2.

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Originally Posted by Russian Crushin

Which round(s) did he win?

he won one round clearly, i think it was the fifth. te round before was close too. ggg controled the vast majority of it but didnt do much clean work then stevens landed several tremendous punches towards the end better than anything golovkin landed that round. i personally scored that round for golovkin but someone could easily have allowed stevens to steal it. the first round was close too, could have gon either way or been scored even.

regardless, a shut out simply didnt happen. you are a good poster though, probably just got caught up in the action or something. because stevens did win rounds.

Don't even bother man.


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[Wokingman]

you are either trolling or you dont know **** about boxing.

stevens is a very good fighter, there isnt a MW in the world he wont get into a rhythm against in some rounds and do some good work. if anything he does better against the rest of the division, in fact martinez is the only other MW i can see beating him.

he had to reset because of stevens' power, when a guy like that hits you it causes you to get stopped in your tracks momentarily. just like when golovkin hit stevens, they were both slinging some serious leather in there.

there is a possibility that you could smother him inside, i havent seen him do any real good work inside against anyone. so that might be a hole in his game, dont know yet. he can fight well at both mid and long range though, he just couldnt do much good work at long range against stevens because of his style. stevens is too short to land anything of his own on the outside so he just covered up and did a great job of it. sometimes when those short compact guys shell up like that you need to step into mid range where you can mix up your punches and create openings.

he doesnt use a lot of angles, again not necessarily because he cant but because he wants to saty in front of his opponents where he can impose his pressure. his sense of distance is excellent.

if someone is going to beat golovkin it would have to be a boxer, but it would have to be a really god one. the idae that anyone with solid boxing skills beats him is absurd. stevens has a very good amateur background and better than average boxing skills. just because he can punch too doesnt make him a poor technician and the same thing applies to golovkin whos amateur background is simply amazing. you dont win medals in the olympics by not knowing how to box. he fought in all the big international amateur tournaments and beat the likes of dirrell, bute, despaigne, geale and korobov just to name a few.

golovkin can box for sure, he has all the fundamentals and plenty of more advanced technical skills in his arsena as well. he is much better than matthysse, anyone who doesnt see that is either ignorant or trolling.

All the guys you named he beat in the amateurs were hype jobs just like him when they turned pro. Look at how all of these dudes turned out once their hype started reaching its climax.

GGG can be the best middleweight but the MW division is crappy. He definitely can't fight and won't beat Quillin. Ok going to be blunt.. GGG has major flaws to his craft. His jab isn't an intelligent jab.. He's throws them as though he's doing drills. He gets punched in the face then resets to move back in the same direction. Stevens corner set him up for failure.. Should kept stressing to him that he was safe up close on GGG. Moving back made everything in GGG favor..

I was one of the few guys picking Garcia in the matthyse fight. I'm use to bums thinking I don't know boxing.