After watching GGG against Stevens..

[bklynboy]

he won one round clearly, i think it was the fifth. te round before was close too. ggg controled the vast majority of it but didnt do much clean work then stevens landed several tremendous punches towards the end better than anything golovkin landed that round. i personally scored that round for golovkin but someone could easily have allowed stevens to steal it. the first round was close too, could have gon either way or been scored even.

regardless, a shut out simply didnt happen. you are a good poster though, probably just got caught up in the action or something. because stevens did win rounds.

Just watched it again:

ROUND 4

3:00-2:00 - jabbing war with only meaningful shot by GGG (GGG)
2:00-1:30 - even with Stevens pressing
1:30-1:00 - even with GGG pressing
1:00-0:33 - GGG landing some body shots, pressing (slight GGG)
0:33-0:00 - Stevens

GGG - close round. Stevens landed and looked good at times. But GGG also landed. GGG parried several with his shoulder. Would that work against a taller fighter? No. But he wasn't fighting a taller fighter.

ROUND 5

3:00-2:00 - Jabbing war. Only meaningful shots by GGG
2:00-1:30 - Jabbing and GGG landing more
1:30-1:00 - Stevens landing more. Good left hook. His best shot so far. GGG showed good parring in the seconds before that stopping 2 rights with his shoulder and elbow.
1:00-0:30 - even with GGG landing the only punch (body shot)
0:30-0:00 - even

GGG - close round

I don't think Stevens won either round. While watching the fight and being in the moment I thought Stevens did better than he did than now when I dispassionately looked at the fight. (Which is typical - you always get excited when the underdog evens things up for a few moments).

Is GGG the GOAT. No. Not even close. And it's an insult to SRR, Hank Armstrong and the others to even say that. Does he have first class d? No. But his d isn't bad. Resetting isn't bad. We won't know how good GGG is until he faces someone who is winning rounds against him. Then we'll know if he can adjust. His resets worked against Stevens.

But I agree simply stepping back for a reset is not a plan for success -- but to give GGG credit his feel for distance is excellent and he out classed Stevens in that.

[Dixie Normis]

It's quite clear he can easily be outboxed and counter. People talk about his jab and how well he uses it but when Stevens was getting a rhythm in some rounds he was getting out jabbed. He seem to have to reset everything he was trying to do once Stevens hit him. Also he shows that he can only come forward and need medium range to get off his shots. His distance and using angles aren't very smart.. He will get ****d shortly once a true boxer get in the ring with him. He's good but not great.. Matthyse was better than him.

I agree and have been saying it for a while. GGG gets hit way too much and really does not seem like that smart of a boxer. Knockout power? Obviously and as long as he is matched up with mid-tier boxers, he will shine. As soon as a top-tier boxer gets in there with him, he is going to get schooled and exposed as the hype-job that he clearly is.

[HAMMER HANDS]

I agree and have been saying it for a while. GGG gets hit way too much and really does not seem like that smart of a boxer. Knockout power? Obviously and as long as he is matched up with mid-tier boxers, he will shine. As soon as a top-tier boxer gets in there with him, he is going to get schooled and exposed as the hype-job that he clearly is.

Why do people say he gets hit too much? Look at the punch stats, nobody has ever landed a 100 punches on the guy - who else can say this?

Curtis hit him with a half dozen good shots, Rosado tagged him with a few, in both cases he was fighting guys on the run that suddenly struck back while he was walking into them and throwing non stop to force the action. Half the time Golovkin is putting his head in the strike zone just to get people to exchange with him.

[Dixie Normis]

Why do people say he gets hit too much? Look at the punch stats, nobody has ever landed a 100 punches on the guy - who else can say this?

Curtis hit him with a half dozen good shots, Rosado tagged him with a few, in both cases he was fighting guys on the run that suddenly struck back while he was walking into them and throwing non stop to force the action. Half the time Golovkin is putting his head in the strike zone just to get people to exchange with him.

The thing is he gets hit alot and it's from people who seriouslyaren't good anyway. Most of his opponents, including Curtis, have been stepping stones and were never considered a threat. So far, the only notable win that he has is Macklin, and Macklin hit him alot as well. The point is he leaves himself open way too much and as soon as someone gets in there with some actual skills, I think he is going to get exposed. He is a very hard puncher and has alot of power but aside from that, not much else.

[Citizen Koba]

The thing is he gets hit alot and it's from people who seriouslyaren't good anyway. Most of his opponents, including Curtis, have been stepping stones and were never considered a threat. So far, the only notable win that he has is Macklin, and Macklin hit him alot as well. The point is he leaves himself open way too much and as soon as someone gets in there with some actual skills, I think he is going to get exposed. He is a very hard puncher and has alot of power but aside from that, not much else.

Your opinion is your opinion. But just for the record who do you think 'exposes' him? Or are you just saying that he might get beaten by some of the very best in the world?

FWIW Macklin barely touched him, which you'll see if you discount the calls by the commentators and actually watch. In fact Macklin made a point of saying afterwards just how difficult it was to land anything clean on him.

[bojangles1987]

he won one round clearly, i think it was the fifth. te round before was close too. ggg controled the vast majority of it but didnt do much clean work then stevens landed several tremendous punches towards the end better than anything golovkin landed that round. i personally scored that round for golovkin but someone could easily have allowed stevens to steal it. the first round was close too, could have gon either way or been scored even.

regardless, a shut out simply didnt happen. you are a good poster though, probably just got caught up in the action or something. because stevens did win rounds.

There was that one round, you say it was the 5th and maybe it was, I can't remember, I thought Stevens won because Golovkin eased off and was getting caught coming in alot. There wasn't any other round I thought he came close to winning. He had a nice last minute in the round before the round he won, that's about it.

[786]

Stevens did won rounds men, come on. You serious???(GGG's voice)hahaha

Your boy will get Mathysse'd soon and everybody will come to his senses. Im not saying he is a bad fighter, he is great at/with his style, but he is kind of one dimensional. That been said he will tear the 160 division Murray will survive the full 12 cause he is big but don't punch hard enough to trouble GGG, and Martinez is too old, prime Martinez puts a beating on GGG.

Anyways I enjoy watching him fight so, war GGG!

All of this! Well said.

[Dixie Normis]

Your opinion is your opinion. But just for the record who do you think 'exposes' him? Or are you just saying that he might get beaten by some of the very best in the world?

FWIW Macklin barely touched him, which you'll see if you discount the calls by the commentators and actually watch. In fact Macklin made a point of saying afterwards just how difficult it was to land anything clean on him.

By some of the best in the world. Not saying the guy is a total bum. If he stays in the MW division, it will be pretty easy for him to look good there, as the MW division is pretty weak. If he were to fight Sergio Martinez, I think he would get exposed. When I say exposed, I dont mean getting exposed as a complete piece of **** boxer, I am saying he will get exposed for being overrated and Martinez should pretty handily outbox him. He is good, no doubt, but the media is making him out to be the next Mike Tyson and as soon as he starts looking for the bigger fights like with Alvarez, Ward, or Mayweather, his hype will get pretty much derailed. Obviously, I may be wrong about this and I would really like to see a Cotto vs GGG fight to see how he stands up against solid competition. It is hard to judge him based on the opposition he has competed against up to now.

[KickAzz]

Some of you mofos are ******. GGG will fight a different fight once an A level opponent is out in front of him

[Dixie Normis]

Some of you mofos are ******. GGG will fight a different fight once an A level opponent is out in front of him

It's very hard to make that prediction based on nothing. He has never fought an A level opponent, how do you know he'll change anything?