Comments Thread For: Richardson: Flagrant Fouls Against Hopkins Must Stop

[IronDanHamza]

This post is a masterpiece. I agree with everything.

Its a shame how people defend dirty fighters like Karo Murat. His fouls were blatant and Steve Smoger was sick of it. So sick of it that he probably was lenient on anything Hopkins did in retaliation. You can't compare love taps on the hip to hitting a man while he's down or trying to intentionally headbutt him after the final bell. Or how about those 2 blatant low blows in the 12th round that Smoger let Murat get away with?

Who exactly is defending Murat? I don't see a single case.

This use of the word "love tap" is just ridiculous The ref said break and he punched him in the back. But that's ok? Why is that ok just because Mu**** were much worse?

Why is it you're outright denying Hopkins blatant fouls and share of fouls? Just because Murat was worse it means it didn't happen?

It's ridiculous and what's even more ridiculous is denying the obvious favouritism from the Ref.

"Probably being lenient in retaliation" Isn't an excuse and pretty much conforms from your own words the obvious problem.

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Who exactly is defending Murat? I don't see a single case.

This use of the word "love tap" is just ridiculous The ref said break and he punched him in the back. But that's ok? Why is that ok just because Mu**** were much worse?

Why is it you're outright denying Hopkins blatant fouls and share of fouls? Just because Murat was worse it means it didn't happen?

It's ridiculous and what's even more ridiculous is denying the obvious favouritism from the Ref.

"Probably being lenient in retaliation" Isn't an excuse and pretty much conforms from your own words the obvious problem.

He tapped him in the back after Murat put him in a headlock for the 3rd time in the fight. Even you agree that Murat was worse and that's why his blatant more flagrant fouls got Smoger's attention.

And that's not even including the stuff that Murat didn't get warned for. Low blows, headlocks, punches after the break, punching while he's down, rabbit punches in the clinch.

Murat heard that Hopkins was a "dirty fighter" from people like you guys and came into the fight intending to fight dirty.

[IronDanHamza]

He tapped him in the back after Murat put him in a headlock for the 3rd time in the fight. Even you agree that Murat was worse and that's why his blatant more flagrant fouls got Smoger's attention.

And?

Does that magically make it legal?

How many times, what difference does it make if it was a retaliation? Does that exclude it from being a foul?

It's the referee's job to warn both fighters if they're fouling whether it's in retaliation or not.

And for crying out loud, cut the bull****. He didn't "tap" him in his back, he punched him in the back. After the ref said break, right infront of his eyes. That's a clear, and blatant foul that at the absolute least you should be taken aside and warned for. The fact a fighter can do that and not had an eye lid batted by the ref just shows obvious favouritism.

Whether he tapped him or not it's irrelevant anyway it's still a blatant foul and Murat is entitled to take a break if he wants one in that situation which is clearly what he wanted (Likely for a breather) Yet Smoger just stood there with a ****** look on his face. Hopkins himself walked away expecting there to be a break. Yet another situation Smoger dealt with terribly.

And what do you mean? "Even I"?

I've said, along with every single other person that Murat was worse. No one is dis*****g that.

Show me one post, one single post of someone defending Murat's actions.

And that's not even including the stuff that Murat didn't get warned for. Low blows, headlocks, punches after the break, punching while he's down, rabbit punches in the clinch.

And Hopkins did most of the same stuff all night!

He low blowed, he punched after bell, he rabbit punched in the clinch.

Here's the difference, for the umpteenth time, he didn't get warned not even once.

Murat heard that Hopkins was a "dirty fighter" from people like you guys and came into the fight intending to fight dirty.

Again with the bull****.

You're actually dis*****g Hopkins bends the rules? He's been that way his whole career. The guy is proud of it.

Murat knew this (as does every sole on the planet who watches boxing) and went to another level. That's his choice.

Doesn't excuse Hopkins giving him some back.

I mean, I'm all for it. Hopkins did the right thing giving him some back, that's what he's supposed to do. I have absolutely no issue with Hopkins giving him some back.

What I have an issue with is the favouritism from the Referee.

Denying it is nothing short of delusion.

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And?

Does that magically make it legal?

How many times, what difference does it make if it was a retaliation? Does that exclude it from being a foul?

It's the referee's job to warn both fighters if they're fouling whether it's in retaliation or not.

The ref has to use judgement. Either warn both or give a little. He didn't warn Murat for putting him in a headlock and he didn't warn Hopkins for retaliation. He warned Murat when he hit Hopkins while he was on the ground. And took a point when he hit him right after Smoger said break. Like a ref is supposed to do, he deducted a point on the second warning.

And for crying out loud, cut the bull****. He didn't "tap" him in his back, he punched him in the back. After the ref said break, right infront of his eyes. That's a clear, and blatant foul that at the absolute least you should be taken aside and warned for. The fact a fighter can do that and not had an eye lid batted by the ref just shows obvious favouritism.

Then he should of warned Murat for putting him in a headlock too. That's what you want? Fairness right? Warning both fighters?

Whether he tapped him or not it's irrelevant anyway it's still a blatant foul and Murat is entitled to take a break if he wants one in that situation which is clearly what he wanted (Likely for a breather) Yet Smoger just stood there with a ****** look on his face. Hopkins himself walked away expecting there to be a break. Yet another situation Smoger dealt with terribly.

See above.

And what do you mean? "Even I"?

I've said, along with every single other person that Murat was worse. No one is dis*****g that.

Show me one post, one single post of someone defending Murat's actions.

And because he was worse, he was appropriately deducted 1 point when he arguably could have been DQ'd.

And Hopkins did most of the same stuff all night!

He low blowed, he punched after bell, he rabbit punched in the clinch.

Here's the difference, for the umpteenth time, he didn't get warned not even once.

And neither was Murat. Smoger let both fighters get away with stuff. And what about that intentional headbutt at the end of the fight? He let him get away with THAT.

Again with the bull****.

You're actually dis*****g Hopkins bends the rules? He's been that way his whole career. The guy is proud of it.

Murat knew this (as does every sole on the planet who watches boxing) and went to another level. That's his choice.

Doesn't excuse Hopkins giving him some back.

I mean, I'm all for it. Hopkins did the right thing giving him some back, that's what he's supposed to do. I have absolutely no issue with Hopkins giving him some back.

What I have an issue with is the favouritism from the Referee.

Denying it is nothing short of delusion.

And that's exactly what this article is about.

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[AlbanianTruths]

Really????

Who the f**k cheats more than Hopkins?? The man fakes injuries just to get a rest during rounds!!! He throws elbows, cheap shots and headbutts all the time!!! SHUT THE **** UP RICHARDSON!!!!

[IronDanHamza]

The ref has to use judgement. Either warn both or give a little. He didn't warn Murat for putting him in a headlock and he didn't warn Hopkins for retaliation. He warned Murat when he hit Hopkins while he was on the ground. And took a point when he hit him right after Smoger said break. Like a ref is supposed to do, he deducted a point on the second warning.

Nonsense.

He warned Murat or gave words to him several times before that.

Exactly like you said, warn both.

He literally warned Murat moments before Hopkins blatantly fouled him and then proceeded to say nothing to Hopkins.

Black and white, clear, blatant favouritism.

Then he should of warned Murat for putting him in a headlock too. That's what you want? Fairness right? Warning both fighters?

Of course. Murat should have been deducted more than 1 point.

How exactly does that change the fact Hopkins should have been warned?

You say "warning both fighters" but he didn't warn both fighters did he.

Thus, the issue.

And because he was worse, he was appropriately deducted 1 point when he arguably could have been DQ'd.

And where is that being disputed? Why isn't this functioning?

Murat was worse.

Murat could easily and rightfully have been DQ'd.

I'm struggling as to why you continuously fail to see what the issue is.

Hopkins-was-not-warned.

Just because Murat was worse, why does that mean Hopkins is free to do as he pleases? That's not how it works.

If Hopkins takes the law into his own lands, he's still breaking the rules and he still should be warned for it and that's clearly not what was on Smoger's agenda.

And neither was Murat. Smoger let both fighters get away with stuff.

Yes, he actually let Hopkins get away with everything.

Sinking in?

And that's exactly what this article is about.

But it's true.

Are you dis*****g that Hopkins bends the rules in his fights?

[IronDanHamza]

Who the f**k cheats more than Hopkins?? The man fakes injuries just to get a rest during rounds!!! He throws elbows, cheap shots and headbutts all the time!!! SHUT THE **** UP RICHARDSON!!!!

You see people saying; "Hopkins tapped him in his side!!!! What's the big deal!"

Then when Roy Jones "taps" Hopkins on the back of the head he needs a break because he can't see

It's hilarious.

[-PBP-]

Nonsense.

He warned Murat or gave words to him several times before that.

Exactly like you said, warn both.

He literally warned Murat moments before Hopkins blatantly fouled him and then proceeded to say nothing to Hopkins.

Black and white, clear, blatant favouritism.

Your making **** up though.

Round 1: 1:20... Murat puts Hopkins in a headlock. Smoger just says "don't put him under your arm"

Round 2:

1:54 - They enter a clinch. They both get punches. Murat hits him after he yells break. Properly gets warned. CLEAR AS DAY

1:28 - The enter a clinch. Hopkins hits him after he yells break. Smoger says DON'T PUNCH BERNARD ...Warning to YES HOPKINS. That's what you wanted right?

0:28 - Enter into a clinch on the ropes. Hopkins has him tied up. Murat throws a punch AFTER he yells break.....No warning.

0:18: Murat puts him in a headlock. Hopkins retaliates and taps him on the side. Smoger pulls aside and warns HOPKINS. No warning to Murat AT ALL

So what are you talking about? Your making **** up. Where was this warning to Murat "moments before" all of this other stuff occurred? The only warning was CLEAR CALL. You can't complain about it.

You came into this fight looking for a foul filled clinch fest and watched it through those goggles.

[IronDanHamza]

Your making **** up though.

Round 1: 1:20... Murat puts Hopkins in a headlock. Smoger just says "don't put him under your arm"

Round 2:

1:54 - They enter a clinch. They both get punches. Murat hits him after he yells break. Properly gets warned. CLEAR AS DAY

1:28 - The enter a clinch. Hopkins hits him after he yells break. Smoger says DON'T PUNCH BERNARD ...Warning to YES HOPKINS. That's what you wanted right?

0:28 - Enter into a clinch on the ropes. Hopkins has him tied up. Murat throws a punch AFTER he yells break.....No warning.

0:18: Murat puts him in a headlock. Hopkins retaliates and taps him on the side. Smoger pulls aside and warns HOPKINS. No warning to Murat AT ALL

So what are you talking about? Your making **** up. Where was this warning to Murat "moments before" all of this other stuff occurred? The only warning was CLEAR CALL. You can't complain about it.

You came into this fight looking for a foul filled clinch fest and watched it through those goggles.

I'll have to rewatch it as I don't recall Hopkins being warned for the blatant foul he did to Murat. Infact I don't recall any stern warnings.

And no I actually didn't expect any dirty fighting from either fighter.

I expected clinches and a boring fight but not any dirtiness.

Mu**** never shown to be a dirty fighter before this fight and Hopkins isn't going to need to use tactics to beat a guy as poor as Murat. He only did because Murat started it.