The Corner Has The Right To Stop The Fight at ANYTIME!

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  • illmaticfighter
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    #81
    Originally posted by TheMexHurricane
    Of course. They know him better than I do but it's best to err on the side of caution. Why all these weird questions though? Tony Weeks refused to accept Alvarado's corner's suggestion to stop the fight on the same night a fighter got killed and you want to trivialize a fighter's safety? WTH is wrong with you? SMH......
    give me a break alvarado has faced a 4 hard hitters back to back

    he fought prescott

    rios twice now provo where was your concern for his life before this fight.

    weeks did his job he let the fighter stop the fight on his terms not yours or the corner.

    someone else dying that night(r.i.p)shouldn't have any impact on what happened in Colorado and you know that so what's wrong with you?

    if you're gonna go on this protect fighters lives campaign you should really suggest the elimination of boxing period.

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    • TheMexHurricane
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      #82
      Originally posted by lebrick
      exactamundo!!

      diego's corner was telling him he would stop the fight and diego is asking for 1 more round.. and they agree..

      boxer's are immortalized for what they did inside the ring, as dangerous as it is, but that is how they are being remembered..
      Every fight is different. Corrales corner would've tried to stop the fight if they felt they needed to. On the same night as Alvarado vs Provodnikov Franky Leal's corner didn't tell him they wanted to stop the fight and Leal died. You should NEVER pretend to know better than a fighter's corner men or suggest that a ref should over ride them.

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      • TheMexHurricane
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        #83
        Originally posted by illmaticfighter
        give me a break alvarado has faced a 4 hard hitters back to back

        he fought prescott

        rios twice now provo where was your concern for his life before this fight.

        weeks did his job he let the fighter stop the fight on his terms not yours or the corner.

        someone else dying that night(r.i.p)shouldn't have any impact on what happened in Colorado and you know that so what's wrong with you?

        if you're gonna go on this protect fighters lives campaign you should really suggest the elimination of boxing period.
        Every fight takes a little more out of a fighter-- especially if it's a fight where a fighter is receiving alota punishment from a very hard puncher. Alvarado isn't the same fighter that fought Prescott. Weeks doing his job(the rules again!!!!) is not the issue. If Mike's corner wanted the fight stopped then Weeks shoulda stopped it. Mike's corner knows him better than Weeks does. Leal dying from injuries during a fight on the same night perfectly emphasizes my point-- which you didn't seem to get.

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        • TheMexHurricane
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          #84
          Guys, y'all know full well I didn't just start suggesting with Alvarado's fight that corner men be more careful not to let a fight go on too long. I was very critical of Garcia for letting Margarito continue vs Pacroid for one..... and then Alvarado's corner tries to stop the fight and Weeks foolishly doesn't accept their suggestion. This issue is especially more significant to me because a Mexican fighter died from injuries sustained on the same night Alvarado fought Provodnikov.
          Last edited by TheMexHurricane; 10-23-2013, 12:05 PM.

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          • wonder187
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            #85
            Originally posted by Syf
            I've never complained about a corner stoppage. Even one by Buddy "I'm stoppin it baby" Mcgirt.

            Corner stoppages are part of the game for a reason. A fighter's job should be to fight until the option to fight is taken out of his hands. Anything else doesn't look good on that fighter. Its part of blood sports.
            Can you Imagine how fast buddy Mcgirt would've stopped that fight lol

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            • bose
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              #86
              Originally posted by .Mexico.
              re-watched the Alvarado vs Ruslan fight and the corner stopped the fight, why did Tony Weeks not obey the corner? It doesn't matter if Mike said he can continue if the corner says thats it, thats it? right?

              Corner called it off, and Tony Weeks Ignored it and still tried to see if Mike wanted to Fight on, wtf is that.


              for those who think I am being critical of tony weeks, I greated this great job tony weeks thread right after the fight
              Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!



              so what yall think was going on there?


              What made me revisit this fight was the recent passing of Franscisco Leal who gave his life in a bout that was less brutal this the Alvarado vs Ruslan bout.

              The Corner Has To Be RESPECTED!

              Its in the boxing rules the corner can stop the fight at anytime. You are Correct!

              Imo, what happened and may continue to happen on hbo is that they are telling the ref to let the fighters fight (hbo wants ratings).

              Don't know how long you been watching boxing but theres cycles where the refs stop the fights early and too early, some at the right time. But than you have refs where they will let the fight go on and on and on.

              Weeks is a good ref and because of this when he gets the extra money to let the fighters fight, he can control himself from jumping in too early when his insticts may say to stop the fight. In boxing a ref can win you a fight and can allow a great fight to play out on its own.

              Thats my guess.

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              • oc9979
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                #87
                The point is that Alvarado quit in his corner. There is nothing else. The fight was stop and we got it on tape that he did not want to continue.

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                  #88
                  Nope, the fighter is in there doing the hard work if the corner wants to stop it and the fighter doesn't they should just do their job until its over.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                    Nope, the fighter is in there doing the hard work if the corner wants to stop it and the fighter doesn't they should just do their job until its over.
                    You hire the corner for a few reasons.

                    A fighter should never quit and a corner should never allow a fighter to quit, but a corner should not send his fighter out when they see that their fighter has nothing left.

                    I didn't see the fight but if Weeks didn't listen to Alvarez corner to stop the fight, Weeks needs to be suspended for a few fights.

                    It should never be the fighter who stops the fight, this is what your corner is for, too look after you.

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                    • kardsufur
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by New England
                      the corner can end the fight whenever they want. that's how it is, and how it should be. if a guy is taking a beating mid round you can get him DQ'd by jumping in the ring. if you don't want to let him out for the next round you can stay in the ring and get your guy DQ'd. the ref cannot, and should not be able to keep the corner from stopping the fight. at the very least, they can get their guy disqualified and get the fight stopped.
                      well the ref CAN and HAS done that before many times so you're wrong

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