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  • A_Jeffrey
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    #101
    Originally posted by ADP02
    Canelo had too many flaws that Floyd could take advantage of ..... Ellerbe said that is why he approved the fight ..... and that was my point!
    yep, Floyd fans are getting schooled here lol

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    • ADP02
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      #102
      Originally posted by Carpe Diem
      Translation: The fight should have happened in 2015 just so the younger Canelo would have been able to beat a 38-year-old past prime, Floyd.
      but it was OK for Floyd to do it against guys like Mosley, right?

      That is not what I'm saying. Floyd has a contract to fight about 6 fights on Showtime. So what was the rush to fight Canelo in 2013? It could have easily happened next year IF Canelo beat some worthy opponents and improved by fixing his weaknesses or at least improving.

      How can you expect an inexperienced flat-footed fighter with a low work-rate and gets easily tired to beat Floyd? Outbox Floyd?

      When reporters said "Canelo may plan to move in on Floyd and put pressure". Floyd Sr was laughing and said "We are hoping for that because Canelo gets easily tired"

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        #103
        Originally posted by ADP02
        You are too biased to even discuss budd. Even Showtime brought up the point about Canelo stepping in the ring at least a year too early. Will you say the same to them?

        We all have opinions but try to add some facts to your to back it up, ..... thanks in advance!
        lol,im bias but you're not?

        this isn't worth discussing the fight is over canelo lost your only point is floyd should fight pac blah blah.

        yes, canelo should've waited till floyd got older but wouldn't canelo then be taking advantage of floyd's age? i guess your ok with that...

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        • Carpe Diem
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          #104
          Originally posted by ADP02
          Canelo has the right flaws that Floyd could have taken advantage of. Ellerbe said so and said "we know of many weaknesses of Canelo and Floyd will take full advantage of them. We are fully aware and I approve this fight ...."

          Now you are talking about something else. Money fight or taking on the riskier fights. If it was all about money, OK Canelo was your guy, no problem BUT then don't come back and try to tell me that it was the riskier fight because that is what I'm talking about!

          Still, Manny was going to be bigger but Floyd preferred, taking vacations, fighting others and putting roadblocks. Why not Manny? The reason is that part of the formula to get Floyd and Ellerbe to approve is not just money. It must be combined with low risk!

          Also, why didn't Floyd even return calls on other threats that were not part of Top Rank? Sergio Martinez, P Williams and other called Floyd out but not even a peep from Floyd. Again, neither was part of TR!


          So how was this different than when Roach said that he saw Margarito's last fight and knew about his weaknesses prior the Pacquiao-Margarito bout? It's matchmaking 101. Team Pacquiao cheery pick tailor made fights the same way Floyd does.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Carpe Diem
            So how was this different than when Roach said that he saw Margarito's last fight and knew about his weaknesses prior the Pacquiao-Margarito bout? It's matchmaking 101. Team Pacquiao cheery pick tailor made fights the same way Floyd does.
            lol, even Floyd's fans agree he cherry picks his opponents.

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            • ADP02
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              #106
              Originally posted by illmaticfighter
              lol,im bias but you're not?

              this isn't worth discussing the fight is over canelo lost your only point is floyd should fight pac blah blah.

              yes, canelo should've waited till floyd got older but wouldn't canelo then be taking advantage of floyd's age? i guess your ok with that...
              Well, at least you tried to discuss a bit this time .... much better!

              read my other post:

              but it was OK for Floyd to do it against guys like Mosley, right?

              That is not what I'm saying. Floyd has a contract to fight about 6 fights on Showtime. So what was the rush to fight Canelo in 2013? It could have easily happened next year IF Canelo beat some worthy opponents and improved by fixing his weaknesses or at least improving.

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                #107
                I thought they were playing tag.

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                • A_Jeffrey
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  Well, at least you tried to discuss a bit this time .... much better!

                  read my other post:

                  but it was OK for Floyd to do it against guys like Mosley, right?

                  That is not what I'm saying. Floyd has a contract to fight about 6 fights on Showtime. So what was the rush to fight Canelo in 2013? It could have easily happened next year IF Canelo beat some worthy opponents and improved by fixing his weaknesses or at least improving.
                  Floyd didn't want to wait until Canelo gets destroyed by a C level fighter and hype dies.

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                  • ADP02
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                    So how was this different than when Roach said that he saw Margarito's last fight and knew about his weaknesses prior the Pacquiao-Margarito bout? It's matchmaking 101. Team Pacquiao cheery pick tailor made fights the same way Floyd does.
                    So thanks for telling us that you agree that Floyd cherry picks.

                    Manny wanted to get another title at another division. I agree, it wasn't the best way to do it but again, thanks for saying that Floyd does indeed cherry pick!

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      but it was OK for Floyd to do it against guys like Mosley, right?

                      That is not what I'm saying. Floyd has a contract to fight about 6 fights on Showtime. So what was the rush to fight Canelo in 2013? It could have easily happened next year IF Canelo beat some worthy opponents and improved by fixing his weaknesses or at least improving.

                      How can you expect an inexperienced flat-footed fighter with a low work-rate and gets easily tired to beat Floyd? Outbox Floyd?

                      When reporters said "Canelo may plan to move in on Floyd and put pressure". Floyd Sr was laughing and said "We are hoping for that because Canelo gets easily tired"

                      What makes you think that he wouldn't have these exact flaws had Floyd fought him a year later?

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