Mayweather-Canelo was a glorified fencing match

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  • ADP02
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    #131
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    Manny said he had nothing to prove with jmm. Not me or you. Then he changed hgis tune. I thought you were against hypocricy? Where is your outrage?

    You know manny didn't want to fight jmm. He wanted $20 mil and had only one other option-floyd which he has turned down at least twice.

    You can hate floyd but why lie about manny? You know exactly what he said and what he meant. You are desperately trying to make what he did honorable. It wasn't.
    I'm not lying when I say that Manny vs Marquez IV was not a cherry pick and you know it!

    Knowing what we know today, next thing you will be telling me is that if Manny vs Marquez V gets made it's another cherry pick for Manny!

    Floyd fans calling Manny vs Marquez IV a cherry pick is the funniest thing that I heard in a while. It's comical coming from a Floyd fan.

    If you are so critical of Manny's fight then I don't get how you can be so blinded about Floyd's cherry picking!

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    • Marvellous1
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      #132
      Originally posted by ADP02
      When it comes to Floyd fighting future opponents, talk is cheap!

      Examples:
      - "Take the test and we have a fight"
      - "Manny you are next" .... then "I never said Manny is next"
      - "So i said that but now I'm not"

      Floyd wanted Mosley, who was going to fight guys like Oscar at several divisions higher is what your are agreeing to as well. Floyd knew it was NOT going to happen so he just talked! It's like teasing a tiger that is behind a cage. You know nothing will happen because those bars will protect you from those comments of yours. Floyd knew it wasn't going to happen and I'm sure you knew as well if you are knowledgeable.

      In 2006, if Floyd delayed his fight a few months, Mosley was there for him but Floyd didn't want. Now, if you want a guy like you said in 2006 then why all of a sudden the change when Mosley is caught in every interview saying that he wants Floyd? From late 2006 to 2010! So that is what is ridiculous .... like I said, when it comes to Floyd, talk is cheap!


      Manny vs Marquez IV was NOT a cherry pick and I have 3 reasons for you:

      Manny vs Marquez I
      Manny vs Marquez II
      Manny vs Marquez III
      See my post above. Soundbites don't make the actual sequence of events any less true. If Cotto had agreed to another catchweight, the fourth fight with Marquez doesn't happen.

      Anyway. What this repetitive trip down memory has to do with Mayweather "sonning" Canelo, I don't know. How is it that this was the fight Mayweather supposedly "forced" to take by Showtime, yet now he cherry picked it himself? If you were so sure about this, why didn't I see you telling the likes of Pac-Boy and his ilk that Mayweather didn't have to be forced into taking on Canelo because he was totally superior?

      Another question. Do you see Pacquiao fighting Canelo anytime soon?

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      • ADP02
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        #133
        Originally posted by Marvellous1
        See my post above. Soundbites don't make the actual sequence of events any less true. If Cotto had agreed to another catchweight, the fourth fight with Marquez doesn't happen.

        Anyway. What this repetitive trip down memory has to do with Mayweather "sonning" Canelo, I don't know. How is it that this was the fight Mayweather supposedly "forced" to take by Showtime, yet now he cherry picked it himself? If you were so sure about this, why didn't I see you telling the likes of Pac-Boy and his ilk that Mayweather didn't have to be forced into taking on Canelo because he was totally superior?

        Another question. Do you see Pacquiao fighting Canelo anytime soon?
        If you read my posts, you would have noticed that I was consistent about Canelo. Going into the Trout fight, I gave him a slight edge because I saw that Cotto was able to get at Trout but was too small to do it effectively but Canelo being a bit bigger had the chance.

        Still, I stated back then that we had 2 fighters with lot's of questions to answer in that fight. After Canelo beat Trout I was NOT convinced and it actually re-enforced what I thought about him.

        As for Manny vs Cotto or Marquez. Well Floyd was option #1, Cotto was option #2 and Marquez was option #3. So?

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        • Jcsuper
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          #134
          Originally posted by killamoneymike
          Not even a real boxing match or fight. Mayweather knows it too.
          you ****** haters beg everyday for floyd to fight against guys who are 20lbs + heavier than he is (GGG, Martinez, Alvarez, even Hopkins) and you expect him to go in a toe to toe war ?! Seriously how old are you ? Guys are so ******ed on these boards it's amazing. Floyd went in the pocket a ton of times in the past but against a guy who is way heavier than you you just cant do that.

          If you have to blame somebody blame Alvarez and floyd's opponent who cant cut the ring and be competitive against him

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          • Marvellous1
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            #135
            Originally posted by ADP02
            If you read my posts, you would have noticed that I was consistent about Canelo. Going into the Trout fight, I gave him a slight edge because I saw that Cotto was able to get at Trout but was too small to do it effectively but Canelo being a bit bigger had the chance.

            Still, I stated back then that we had 2 fighters with lot's of questions to answer in that fight. After Canelo beat Trout I was NOT convinced and it actually re-enforced what I thought about him.

            As for Manny vs Cotto or Marquez. Well Floyd was option #1, Cotto was option #2 and Marquez was option #3. So?
            First off, Mayweather was not option one. He wasn't option one because Pacquiao had just lost a highly dubious decision to Tim Bradley. Pacquiao deserved that decision but it was a far from impressive performance (as were his ones against Mosley and Marquez). Mayweather at this point was slipping away. Arum, ran into the ring and hugged Bradley when the decision was announced, then on the other side of his face, berates the judges. Pacquiao doesn't look to immediately put that right because supposedly there was no money in it (and I thought was Mayweather who only cared about money). THAT right there was option one, but it didn't pay enough. Then it was onto a fighter Pacquiao already destroyed. Only Cotto would go for the catchweight again. THAT was option two. Marquez was option three and blew up in their faces. Fights 1, 2 and 3 had nothing to do with fight 4 being made. Money and failed catchweight offers are. Pacquiao is the one that has a habit of fighting opponents who've lost or are in poor form and he's doing it again. Yet, because Mayweather is winning and doing it the best way he knows how, he's getting flamed?

            He may not seek blood or happily give it, but I'd like to know how many of those demanding it went to visit Gerald McLellan or even know how he is. Someone was full of praise for Rafa Marquez and Israel Vasquez, but couldn't tell me how they are now, or what they're doing these days. Like they cared after they got their money's worth.

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #136
              I just makes me sad that so called boxing fans can't appreciate something they like likely won't see for another couple decades if at all.

              Floyd Mayweather Jr's are not common in the sport so you should try to understand why he is on the level he is on so you can judge other guys.

              I except garbage like this out of casual fans who I don't expect to get the finer parts of the sport but on a boxing message board these are suppose to be hardcore fans to see such ignorance en masse is saddening.

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              • Foreign Soil
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                #137
                Originally posted by MPX309
                Too scared to risk getting hit? . . R u serious? Has any boxer ever gone in the ring with the ambition of getting hit? . . . Too scared to risk getting hit by a man who weighs 15 pounds more, but isn't too scared to get in the ring in the first place. . . hmmm.
                Floyd doesn't hurt his opponents because he's too busy running. None of his fights are classics, they're all Ellerbe wannabe jerk sessions. :bukkake:

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                • Foreign Soil
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Interloper
                  Wait, I thought boxing was about not getting hit? Are the fighters supposed to walk into punches? I didn't get that memo.
                  A Mayweather fight - . Will you ever rewatch it unless you're trying surpass Ellerbe?

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                  • Foreign Soil
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Mister Wolf
                    If you are black then you're a coward for fighting that way. If you are any other race then they call you a defensive wizard like Willie Pep.
                    Your spirit is broken. Harden the **** up.

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                    • Foreign Soil
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Marvellous1
                      Whereas you show true bravery from the obscurity and safety of a keyboard. A true tough guy. LOL
                      Butthurt *****.

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