Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder-Nicolai Firtha on Hopkins-Murat Bill

[TheWinners]

These ****ing so called future boxing stars are ****ing jokes. Really? Step up to the plate and face a real challenge for Christ ****ing sakes.

[joe strong]

I have seen him fight and I watched as Tye Fields brutally knocked him out. So how tough can he possibly be? As far as Wilder's career is concerned even with all the highlight reel type knock outs, his career is nothing short of boring.

I was at the tye fields\firtha fight here in my home town. it was a good scrap & you only seen the knock out on youtube because the whole fight isn't available anywhere. firtha has some experience & he's big. the fields fight was probably tye's most complete fight. he actually used decent foot work, snapped the jab & cut the ring off well. he was also 257 for that fight. firtha isn't a dud. if wilder can blow him out that is a pretty good feat in my opinion...

[RawDawgHasSpokn]

Just building Wilders public appeal. Not great but its publicity nonetheless.

[LOWBLOW_CHAMP]

Disappointing choice of opponent...

That said... They're trying to take baby steps with Wilder because they aren't sure if he's ready for the step up. The kid still needs experience before he finds himself going deep into a fight against an opponent that's having success.

1) He hasn't gone past 4 rounds so he hasn't proven that he's ready for 10-12 rounds; let alone competitive rounds, where he's getting hit in return.
2) He hasn't been in a competitive fight so you don't know who to match him up against (Can he handle a good shot? How does he take pressure? How does he handle speed? etc.)

David Price had a similar career going, until he stepped up against a top 10-15 Heavyweight that saw him get stopped twice; the same happened to Seth Mitchell (in hind sight these fighters might have never been ready for the top of the division, which is till an unknown for Wilder). The fact is, if you're part of his management, rushing him into situations he isn't prepared for is a mistake you don't want to make.

Also, you have to take into account, there might not be too many Heavyweights better than Firtha that want to fight a fully prepared Wilder (that's been training and sparring with Haye no less) on short notice.

I understand why they're doing it, but if this fight wasn't on the Hopkins/Quillin Doubleheader. I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it. Since it is, I'll watch it to see how he's developing

thats why i tell people give seth his credit at least he stepped up and took on decent contenders!!

[mathed]

This is just a showcase fight on a big card. They want the public to see Wilder destroy an experienced opponent (journeyman level in reality) in a few rounds in front of a million TV screens.

[Ravens Fan]

I was at the tye fields\firtha fight here in my home town. it was a good scrap & you only seen the knock out on youtube because the whole fight isn't available anywhere. firtha has some experience & he's big. the fields fight was probably tye's most complete fight. he actually used decent foot work, snapped the jab & cut the ring off well. he was also 257 for that fight. firtha isn't a dud. if wilder can blow him out that is a pretty good feat in my opinion...

I saw the Fury-Firtha fight and admittedly I thought Firtha was tough. But that is about as much credit as I am willing to give to a fighter that was dominated by Tye Fields, regardless of what version of "Big Sky" showed up on fight night. And by your own words it sounds like Tye dominated and by what I have read he easily won every round.

As far as the Fury fight is concerned. I thought that Tyson was bad and never thought that Firtha was in anyway that good. With that said I cannot even see Firtha as good enough to even be a gatekeeper. He is, in my opinion, just a notch above a club fighter. And he is hardly the kind of fighter that a 29-0 fighter should be fighting while trying to claim elite status. But don't get me wrong because, if they fight, I hope Firtha beats the snot out of the overrated Wilder.

[joe strong]

I saw the Fury-Firtha fight and admittedly I thought Firtha was tough. But that is about as much credit as I am willing to give to a fighter that was dominated by Tye Fields, regardless of what version of "Big Sky" showed up on fight night. And by your own words it sounds like Tye dominated and by what I have read he easily won every round.

As far as the Fury fight is concerned. I thought that Tyson was bad and never thought that Firtha was in anyway that good. With that said I cannot even see Firtha as good enough to even be a gatekeeper. He is, in my opinion, just a notch above a club fighter. And he is hardly the kind of fighter that a 29-0 fighter should be fighting while trying to claim elite status. But don't get me wrong because, if they fight, I hope Firtha beats the snot out of the overrated Wilder.

from my understanding wilder had a pretty limited amateur career so they took it slow. I expected a better showing from liakhovich even after he lost to Jennings (could be another overrated American). I don't think anyone saw that coming so he obviously has legit power. he started take on better fighters. beck, manswell, Harrison, liakhovich & now firtha. firtha is a step down from liakhovich but at least he's a durable live body. he will punch back if given the chance. he won't be pushed around & he will try & tie wilder up to slow the fight down. wilder should be beating guys like this but he really needs some rounds. guinn would have been another good choice. is wilder a legit contender? time will tell but if he gets past firtha i'd get guinn on the phone then follow that up with a guy like tony Thompson or kevin Johnson...

[thuggery]

Haha what a total bum fight, this is ridiculous.

[Ravens Fan]

from my understanding wilder had a pretty limited amateur career so they took it slow. I expected a better showing from liakhovich even after he lost to Jennings (could be another overrated American). I don't think anyone saw that coming so he obviously has legit power. he started take on better fighters. beck, manswell, Harrison, liakhovich & now firtha. firtha is a step down from liakhovich but at least he's a durable live body. he will punch back if given the chance. he won't be pushed around & he will try & tie wilder up to slow the fight down. wilder should be beating guys like this but he really needs some rounds. guinn would have been another good choice. is wilder a legit contender? time will tell but if he gets past firtha i'd get guinn on the phone then follow that up with a guy like tony Thompson or kevin Johnson...

I believe when Wilder starts to fight legit fighters he will have to straighten out his punches and his power may be reduced quite significantly when that happens. As for his amateur career he seems to have accomplished a lot in a few fights, Golden Gloves Champ, Amateur National title and the Bronze medal in the Olympics. But unfortunately that cannot be said about his pro career when he has accomplished so little in 30 fights. I wonder what his goal is, to keep on fighting so-so fighters and talk his way into a title fight?

[ddangerous]

Now thats a little much, I think its at least a year and a half before hes ready for that kind of competition

Why? He's a former Olympian with a 29-0 record and 29 ****ing knockouts.

That would be a great match-up but Arreola has already made it clear he doesn't want Wilder next and he also fought just a couple of weeks ago. He wouldn't have been interested to fight in November. He's back home and eating now and will be back in the ring next year.

It was brought up by GBP at one point. I'd like to see it.