Comments Thread For: #MoneyfortheMiddle - Last Achievement Could Be at 160

[chaposinaloa]

Maravilla had a hard time making 160 for his fight with Chavez Jr. He struggled till the last minute and some are asking for a catchweight??

Floyd's way too small for 160 and Maravilla is getting big for 160. This is not a realistic fight.

[IronMike86]

Appears you heard about Diaz dropping him...

He beat Molina easily mostly because he was bigger and Molina is a nobody. Watch the fight carefully and you see Molina connecting with left hooks inside Khan's combinations--the same scenario he got KOed with against vs Danny.

unfortunately, Diaz confirmed this in Khan's next fight. maybe the third fight together will change things but at this point i think Khan is who he is

Yea, i can agree with that. Khan has all the offensive skill in the world, but is extremely flawed defensively and has a glass jaw. I honestly assume that it will improve (not his jaw, but his defense ) the more he trains without Roach.. So far, two fights, and I'd say 1 decent, 1 typical inferior defense.. You're right, I think his 3rd fight will tell us a lot about him and the direction of his career.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Good article Cliff. I only see it happening at a catch weight. If a fighter can take 155-158 then and only then do I think its gets made.

[crold1]

Good article Cliff. I only see it happening at a catch weight. If a fighter can take 155-158 then and only then do I think its gets made.

Agree on the weight and mentioned it in the piece. There are obvious other obstacles as well, but as noted not focusing on those.

[JPsol]

GGG is damn near 6' tall where Canelo was at least an inch shorter than Floyd. Just like with DLH, Floyd would have to put himself in harm's way to score against GGG where he could could box Canelo from a safe distance has he chose to. Bad comparison.

Canelo is listed as an inch taller than Mayweather according to most sources, but they looked to be right around the same height to me. Golovkin is listed as 2 1/2 inches-3 inches taller than Floyd. Heights as I'm sure you aware aren't always recorded accurately. Rosado is listed as 6' and Golovkin definitely looked like he was a little more than an inch shorter.

Floyd would still have the reach advantage over Golovkin though as he did against Canelo. Floyd is listed at 72" whereas Golovkin is listed at 70". DLH was listed at right around the same height as Golovkin, but also apparently had a 73" reach.

Also, by bigger I though you meant in terms of weight. Golovkin's size advantage would definitely pose a challenges for Floyd though. Again, that's partially why I think this fight could be interesting.

[b Murphington]

honestly, there isn't that many more options for floyd under the 160 division, he would beat the hell outta khan, not even a contest and would prolly knock him out, while danny might pose more of a challenge, floyd would still convincingly win on points

the only place to go is up, and him going up would sell PPVs

[hitking]

Canelo is listed as an inch taller than Mayweather according to most sources, but they looked to be right around the same height to me. Golovkin is listed as 2 1/2 inches-3 inches taller than Floyd. Heights as I'm sure you aware aren't always recorded accurately. Rosado is listed as 6' and Golovkin definitely looked like he was a little more than an inch shorter.

Floyd would still have the reach advantage over Golovkin though as he did against Canelo. Floyd is listed at 72" whereas Golovkin is listed at 70". DLH was listed at right around the same height as Golovkin, but also apparently had a 73" reach.

Also, by bigger I though you meant in terms of weight. Golovkin's size advantage would definitely pose a challenges for Floyd though. Again, that's partially why I think this fight could be interesting.

I don't see it as an intrestin fight at all honestly. I think GGG disposes of Floyd rather easily. And to be real, I'd pick Floyd to lose against all of the top middleweights except Martinez. And the only reason I pick him to beat Sergio is because of styles. Sergio would try and outslick Floyd and really wouldn't use his size and stregnth advantage. If Floyd wants to do it more power to him. But I wouldn't gain any satisfaction in seeing him lose to guys based on nothing more than size. And every middleweight that would beat him would likely lose badly to him if they were close to being the same size.

[JPsol]

I don't see it as an intrestin fight at all honestly. I think GGG disposes of Floyd rather easily. And to be real, I'd pick Floyd to lose against all of the top middleweights except Martinez. And the only reason I pick him to beat Sergio is because of styles. Sergio would try and outslick Floyd and really wouldn't use his size and stregnth advantage. If Floyd wants to do it more power to him. But I wouldn't gain any satisfaction in seeing him lose to guys based on nothing more than size. And every middleweight that would beat him would likely lose badly to him if they were close to being the same size.

At 154/152 or 160?

I could certainly see Golovkin being too much for Floyd at 160, but I think making him go down in weight would even things out at least a little bit.

Robinson was dominating Maxim, so I think it would be interesting to see if Floyd could do something similar to GGG. It would certainly add to his legacy.

[jimboinbigd]

... Sergio is not coming back at the top -- at 39, after being out one year and a half, due to serious injuries...
No one could hype this fight.
As for Golovkin: GGG is a "Soviet School" product and he was ready to go North and fight Ward... Lately, GGG also said he would go down in weight and face FMJr.
But I don't see either Floyd or Andre take a fight against Golovkin ever.

GGG is a product of hype like Matthysse was. Both Floyd and Ward would shut GGG out.

[hitking]

At 154/152 or 160?

I could certainly see Golovkin being too much for Floyd at 160, but I think making him go down in weight would even things out at least a little bit.

Robinson was dominating Maxim, so I think it would be interesting to see if Floyd could do something similar to GGG. It would certainly add to his legacy.

It doesn't matter what weight its at. All you have to do is make weight for the 30secs you're on the scale. Its not like you have to make weight during the ring walk. GGG is too big, to strong, and hits too hard for Floyd. And more importanly, he's skilled enough to take advantage of his advantages. If GGG were 2" shorter, 15-20lbs of natural weight lighter, and hit like a hard punching middleweight opposed to a hard punching light heavyweight, I'd pick Floyd to clown him. And that's why I don't have a lotta interest in the fight. He only beats Floyd because he's bigger.

As for legacy, Floyd's is fine. He's gone from 130 to 154. And picked up real titles at every stop outside of 140. And he did stop the then reigning lineal jr welterweight champ in Hatton. I think everyone needs to pump their brake. Bigger isn't always better. Pac looked damn good against bigger guys and ultimately it was guys moving up that caused him the most trouble. These things usually have a way of working themselves out.