Is Danny Garcias resume now better then Hattons?

[IronDanHamza]

No, but I started out in the thread by saying "depending how you rate Castillo for that fight, you could include him as well" - I also said, "At least Castillo was on a run of wins".

Regardless, that's what it was meant to say. Hatton doesn't have many elite wins, but he has Tszuy and his second tier wins are stronger than Danny's at this moment in time, and that's all there is to it.



Why he was done? Is that a serious question? He was in wars with Barrera, was KTFO by Pacquiao or quit or whatever you want to call twice (and people were saying Pacquiao knocked out a past prime Morales!). Then he fights 6 times in six years, struggling to make weight and looking grossly out of shape compared to what he did in his prime.

Admittedly, he gave Maidana a good fight and won against Cano, but other than there was nothing. He was quite clearly not the same fighter he once was.

Well as long as you don't include Castillo as one of Hatton's "wins" then fair enough. All I'm saying is if you include Castillo for Hatton you have to include Morales for Danny.

No I'm not asking why Morales was done Of course he's shot.

You said Judah was done didn't you? I think that's what I quoted you when I responded.

I agree that Hatton has more depth to his resume plus the best win of each which has him ahead but Garcia isn't too far behind.

[NEETzsche]

hatton was protected by frank warren for years, spoon-fed opponents that would flatter him. garcia takes dangerous fights that he is expected to lose

(don't bother bringing up the mayweather and pacquiao fights, they were cash-outs)

[Humean]

Hatton for now. Tszyu was slightly over the hill but the version that Hatton beat was better than anything Garcia has beaten although the Matthysse win is close. Garcia will likely eclipse Hatton within the next two years or so.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

hatton was protected by frank warren for years, spoon-fed opponents that would flatter him. garcia takes dangerous fights that he is expected to lose

(don't bother bringing up the mayweather and pacquiao fights, they were cash-outs)

Don't bother brining up the Mayweather/Pacquaio fights? But you're happy to give Garcia credit for the likes of Khan and Matthysse - newsflash genius, he didn't take those fights for free.

[NEETzsche]

Don't bother brining up the Mayweather/Pacquaio fights? But you're happy to give Garcia credit for the likes of Khan and Matthysse - newsflash genius, he didn't take those fights for free.

they don't count anyway since he was literally splattered by both of them. only thing they proved is that he was never truly world class

[Dirk Diggler UK]

they don't count anyway since he was literally splattered by both of them. only thing they proved is that he was never truly world class

Garcia would lose comfortably to a prime Mayweather and Pacquaio too. Must mean he was never world class. Derp.

[NEETzsche]

Garcia would lose comfortably to a prime Mayweather and Pacquaio too. Must mean he was never world class. Derp.

there's losing comfortably and then there's being humiliated. if he wasn't such a hypejob hatton wouldn't have been fit to share a ring with floyd and pac.

minus those two names, who knocked him out cold, hatton's record is weaker than garcia's.

[trfcdan86]

If you go into detail on Hattons resume you realise that it isn't really that great!

I do give him great credit for the Tsyzu effort despite his age.

After that tho:

Carlos Maussa- literally one of the worst "world" titlists I've ever seen.
Luis Collozo - He lost that fight! Watch it again.
Juan Urango - Average at best.
Jose Luis Castillo - Shot! And I mean Shot! A shell of the former great, who in his previous bout to this was gifted a decision v Ngoudjo.
Floyd Mayweather - Took him to school!
Juan Lazcano - Average and shot!
Paul Mallignagi - Decent opponent, was always goin to win with his pressure style and Paul's feather fists.
Manny Pacquiao - No comment needed!
Senchenko - KOd by a guy who was KOd by Mallignaggi.

Ricky Hatton is one of the most overhyped boxers of the last 20 years. I hold Garcia's wins over Matthysse, Judah and Khan alone better than Hattons entire résumé.

[junior gong]

Yes, his WBU run (If you can call it that) was literally irrelevant.

You actually consider that to be relevant?

You genuinely consider Pendleton, Thaxton etc as good, legitimate wins?

Not a single fighter he fought during his WBU "Run" was ranked anywhere by anyone.

Tell me why and how you consider those legitimate wins? They aren't even world level fighters.

Between 05-08, Hatton did some great work against Top 10, world level and even P4P level fighters that got him into the Top 10 P4P list.

Tszyu, Maussa, Urango, Collazo, Malignaggi, Lazcano, etc, that's the great work Hatton put in.

The likes of Ben Tackie and co and his great run with WBU that's not even a real belt is basically irrelevant and worthless.

Because most of them during that run were a little bit short at world level, but still very good fighters all the same. Danny doesnt have anything like that on his record. It really isnt difficult to work out is it? Hatton has equal if not better wins against world level opposition and a hell of a lot more at the level just below. Like I said, you're a 'top trumper'. You dont have any respect for the sport. Guys like Jono Thaxton, Magee, Tackie, pep, Pendleton etc. are solid enough pros's, certainly good enough to deserve the respect of some giggly little internet fruitcake like yourself.

A fighter should be judged on his whole career, not just the bits you saw on telly or some other flom told you about. Garcia's career is just getting going and thats why his resume isnt as deep yet. Real simple stuff.

And LMAO @ you deeming his wins as 'worthless'.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

there's losing comfortably and then there's being humiliated. if he wasn't such a hypejob hatton wouldn't have been fit to share a ring with floyd and pac.

minus those two names, who knocked him out cold, hatton's record is weaker than garcia's.

Garcia would lose in similar circumstances. He might not get knocked out by Floyd but he'd win less rounds than Hatton.