Is Danny Garcias resume now better then Hattons?

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  • LacedUp
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    #151
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Well as long as you don't include Castillo as one of Hatton's "wins" then fair enough. All I'm saying is if you include Castillo for Hatton you have to include Morales for Danny.

    No I'm not asking why Morales was done Of course he's shot.

    You said Judah was done didn't you? I think that's what I quoted you when I responded.

    I agree that Hatton has more depth to his resume plus the best win of each which has him ahead but Garcia isn't too far behind.
    I don't know if I said he was done, but I did say he wasn't nearly the same fighter as he was in his prime. And he also lost almost all of the components that made him a good fighter to begin with. I don't know if that's what you quoted me on, I think I said that after.

    But Judah was certainly past his prime, and I don't think he's as good a win for Garcia as Malignaggi was for Hatton - even though it was a premature stoppage. Judah also lost every time he stepped it up.

    I don't think he was shot as per se, but not at all in his prime if that explains it.

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      #152
      Originally posted by trfcdan86
      If you go into detail on Hattons resume you realise that it isn't really that great!

      I do give him great credit for the Tsyzu effort despite his age.

      After that tho:

      Carlos Maussa- literally one of the worst "world" titlists I've ever seen.
      Luis Collozo - He lost that fight! Watch it again.
      Juan Urango - Average at best.
      Jose Luis Castillo - Shot! And I mean Shot! A shell of the former great, who in his previous bout to this was gifted a decision v Ngoudjo.
      Floyd Mayweather - Took him to school!
      Juan Lazcano - Average and shot!
      Paul Mallignagi - Decent opponent, was always goin to win with his pressure style and Paul's feather fists.
      Manny Pacquiao - No comment needed!
      Senchenko - KOd by a guy who was KOd by Mallignaggi.

      Ricky Hatton is one of the most overhyped boxers of the last 20 years. I hold Garcia's wins over Matthysse, Judah and Khan alone better than Hattons entire résumé.
      Anyone can do that with a resume, so stop it

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        #153
        Originally posted by junior gong
        Because most of them during that run were a little bit short at world level, but still very good fighters all the same. Danny doesnt have anything like that on his record. It really isnt difficult to work out is it? Hatton has equal if not better wins against world level opposition and a hell of a lot more at the level just below. Like I said, you're a 'top trumper'. You dont have any respect for the sport. Guys like Jono Thaxton, Magee, Tackie, pep, Pendleton etc. are solid enough pros's, certainly good enough to deserve the respect of some giggly little internet fruitcake like yourself.

        A fighter should be judged on his whole career, not just the bits you saw on telly or some other flom told you about. Garcia's career is just getting going and thats why his resume isnt as deep yet. Real simple stuff.

        And LMAO @ you deeming his wins as 'worthless'.
        Very short of world level.

        It's going back abit but I would highly doubt a single one of them were considered to be in the Top 20 at 140.

        Tony Pep is now included? You can't be serious.

        How on this Earth was Tony Pep "just short of world level" at that time? He's never been close to world level ever.

        So you're saying that you consider his WBU run to be a legitimate set of wins?

        I don't know what "Top trumper" means but save the bull****. I saw the entirety of Ricky Hatton's career when he was defending his fake belt against nobodies and scrubs and the fact you actually consider that to be legitimate is hilarious.

        I was likely watching Boxing before your parents thought about conceiving you, so please.

        I didn't say that Garcia's resume is as deep or as good as Hatton's. If you read my posts you can see that I said that Hatton has both more depth (Key word) and has the best win between them.

        What I did say is it's close, which it is. Compare Garcia's career at the age of 25 to Hatton's. Garcia has obviously got his career going at the top level a lot quicker than Hatton did hence why he's on his way toward overtaking it.

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          #154
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          I don't know if I said he was done, but I did say he wasn't nearly the same fighter as he was in his prime. And he also lost almost all of the components that made him a good fighter to begin with. I don't know if that's what you quoted me on, I think I said that after.

          But Judah was certainly past his prime, and I don't think he's as good a win for Garcia as Malignaggi was for Hatton - even though it was a premature stoppage. Judah also lost every time he stepped it up.

          I don't think he was shot as per se, but not at all in his prime if that explains it.
          You did say it But I think you must have mixed it up with Morales.

          Yeah, no doubts he was past prime of course he's past his prime, but he's still a Top JWW and still had something left, he was still fast, good timing, sharp, he was sharp in the Garcia fight.

          Judah I would say is better than most Hatton's wins. Malignaggi is comparable I agree and so is Collazo (One of Hatton's best wins IMO, very underrated fighter) although that was a very close fight.

          But other than those two, and obviously Tszyu, I would say Judah is better than the rest of Hatton's wins.

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            #155
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Very short of world level.

            It's going back abit but I would highly doubt a single one of them were considered to be in the Top 20 at 140.

            Tony Pep is now included? You can't be serious.

            How on this Earth was Tony Pep "just short of world level" at that time? He's never been close to world level ever.

            So you're saying that you consider his WBU run to be a legitimate set of wins?

            I don't know what "Top trumper" means but save the bull****. I saw the entirety of Ricky Hatton's career when he was defending his fake belt against nobodies and scrubs and the fact you actually consider that to be legitimate is hilarious.

            I was likely watching Boxing before your parents thought about conceiving you, so please.

            I didn't say that Garcia's resume is as deep or as good as Hatton's. If you read my posts you can see that I said that Hatton has both more depth (Key word) and has the best win between them.

            What I did say is it's close, which it is. Compare Garcia's career at the age of 25 to Hatton's. Garcia has obviously got his career going at the top level a lot quicker than Hatton did hence why he's on his way toward overtaking it.
            What do you actually mean by that? So his career before Tszyu was 'illegitimate'? Well, I guess thats him and most other fighters that have ever turned pro.

            The world according to IronDan :- If you arent fighting world class fighters every time out, it just dont count.

            I very much doubt you would have been watching boxing for any amount of time before I was conceived(1976), if at all and even if you had then I suggest you watch another sport, because your attitude towards the sport sucks. Most flom's do.

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            • NEETzsche
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              #156
              garcia would knock a prime hatton senseless

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                #157
                Originally posted by junior gong
                I was conceived(1976)
                hahaha ****ing hell, i always assumed you were like 15

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                • junior gong
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by NEETzsche
                  hahaha ****ing hell, i always assumed you were like 15
                  Probably only because you're a nonce.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by junior gong
                    Probably only because you're a nonce.
                    spending your days crusading against 'floboners' at age 37. where did it all go wrong mate?

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                    • junior gong
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by NEETzsche
                      spending your days crusading against 'floboners' at age 37. where did it all go wrong mate?
                      Not sure it has, mate. But at least I'm not pretending to be 13.....we know why men do that, dont we? you fooking Savile.

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