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  • FrankieBruno
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    #31
    Naturally bad stamina

    Not a good look because he is still young, imagine when he gets older?

    I don't think he will have a very long career

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    • Unseen
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      #32
      Originally posted by stefl14
      See the post I made below and earlier in this thread. I'll keep posting it if people don't read it.
      What data did you add to that formula?

      Did you add that there is an uphill section?
      Did you add the temperature of 78F or 25C.

      He has a formula which is fine, but not every formula works for every person. I have jogged up Mount Snowdon in some sections (Not long as 800 M each time) in Wales and it is only 3600 feet. The elevation kills calves anyway, but even the air feels like it doesn't get into you as much.

      25 Celsius is also pretty hot to run in.

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      • stefl14
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        #33
        Originally posted by Unseen
        What data did you add to that formula?

        Did you add that there is an uphill section?
        Did you add the temperature of 78F or 25C.

        He has a formula which is fine, but not every formula works for every person. I have jog up Mount Snowdon in Wales and it is only 3600 feet. The elevation kills calves anyway, but even the air feels like it doesn't get into you as much.

        25 Celsius is also pretty hot to run in.
        I wasn't ridiculously specific but the point is that it doesn't make that much difference. In any case the time is rubbish. I've ran at a faster pace for about 4 miles on a course that is probably more hilly (250ft ascent and descent as finishing and starting point are the same) in 25 degrees. It's not at 7000ft granted but as these tables illustrate, that wouldn't have made a huge difference. Besides, that temperature is not consequential for 800m really. You can't really argue with it - the times are mediocre at best for a professional athlete.

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        • Unseen
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          #34
          Originally posted by stefl14
          I wasn't ridiculously specific but the point is that it doesn't make that much difference. In any case the time is rubbish. I've ran at a faster pace for about 4 miles on a course that is probably more hilly (250ft ascent and descent as finishing and starting point are the same) in 25 degrees. It's not at 7000ft granted but as these tables illustrate, that wouldn't have made a huge difference. Besides, that temperature is not consequential for 800m really. You can't really argue with it - the times are mediocre at best for a professional athlete.
          I am not saying he has a good time, I feel that he is affected by a lot of factors from losing some muscle due to making weight, the high altitude, training a boxing camp and the temperature and ascent.

          I am not sure how the formula was created, and who they used but it doesn't sound right to me. Only a second difference? I have experienced higher altitude than sea level as stated which was new to me and certainly I felt it tougher. Plus of course it had quite a high ascent. This was at my peak when I was training for a marathon and was doing 18 miles by that point.

          Also I find running in 25C quite hard too. However we are all different so some like yourself have less issues with heat.

          I am not sure if the professor used professional athletes or whoever, but I still feel 1 second is too little.

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          • Daddy T
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            #35
            its not as bad as all that. firstly he's at altitude and secondly he ran it multiple times. Nice and easy the first time and then successfully faster. It's not like he ran as fast as he could ONCE and managed 2.52 or whatever that was having run it several times before.

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            • Anderson Silva
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              #36
              Canelo's toe is broken, its insider news so his not pushing himself much to avoid causing further damage.

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              • ssgtagostini
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                #37
                a 6-minute mile is a bad time? since when?

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                • Sparked_26
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ssgtagostini
                  a 6-minute mile is a bad time? since when?
                  800 metres is slightly less than half a mile.

                  So yeah, if you were going all in and could only run a 3 minute 800 metres that is something that could be achieved by a child.

                  I am sure Canelo was doing interval training though.

                  Either way that still wouldn't be impressive even by ordinary standards.

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                  • stefl14
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ssgtagostini
                    a 6-minute mile is a bad time? since when?
                    It's garbage when you're running only half a mile in intervals and its your PB and you're a professional athlete. There are loads of guys (myself included) who can run 4-5 miles at significantly less than 6 minute mile pace and we're supposed to be impressed when this guy runs half a mile in a bit less than 3 minutes. Please.

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                    • Biolink
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ssgtagostini
                      a 6-minute mile is a bad time? since when?
                      If it was only a mile that isn't a good time over that short of a distance especially for someone like Canelo who gets paid to work out. Now if we were saying 6 minutes over like 6 miles or something then that is a lot more fair(And even then someone who work out everyday you'd think would have no problem doing this).
                      Last edited by Biolink; 09-08-2013, 08:21 AM.

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