Fighting Current Champions = Safety First? (only if your Mayweather?)

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  • daggum
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    #21
    Originally posted by GRboxing
    He should have fought Manny. Simple as. Even though Manny walked from the meeting. Still hurts Floyd's resume
    he agreed to all of floyd's demands multiple times and floyd wouldn't fight him. he walked away from an invisible meeting and its his fault? if only manny went to the meeting then floyd wouldn't change his demands over and over!

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    • Gorilla Dog
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      #22
      Originally posted by daggum
      floyd. he's the one who turned down a career high payday against cotto. he's the one that said cotto lived too far away so he couldn't fight him. maybe arum made him do those things with his mind power?
      seriously you just gonna make up stuff on the forum? What did Cotto's promoter Bob Arum say?

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        #23
        Originally posted by Fetta
        His fight is approaching. It will get worse
        I notice that...everytime Floyd has a fight, he "hasn't fought nobody"

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          #24
          Originally posted by Gorilla Dog
          seriously you just gonna make up stuff on the forum? What did Cotto's promoter Bob Arum say?
          i dont care what he said. i care about facts. facts are floyd was offered a career high payday to fight cotto and he didn't take it. also what did floyd himself say? how come you go by what arum says but not floyd? floyd says cotto lives too far away so he couldn't fight him. why don't you get on floyd for saying that nonsense? has love blinded you?

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            #25
            It's easy to go through anybody's record throughout history and pick apart that guy's wins based on any number of excuses. I mean, you can do that to the records of guys like Ali and Robinson if you really wanted to. You could make those guys look like utter trash if you truly disliked them, and you'd probably even convince a few idiots on the internet that you were right. That doesn't make it so, though.

            The only real ****ty opponents Mayweather has had in the last few years were Guerrero and Marquez. Both were never legitimate at the weight that Floyd fought them at. Marquez never even had a bout at that weight before, and Guerrero had only fought there once, against Berto, who was never anywhere near deserving of the smoke that HBO blew up our asses about him.

            Other than that, Floyd's record only suffers from not having fought Pacquiao.

            Canelo is the toughest opponet Floyd has fought since Oscar, IMO. I still don't think he's going to win more than 3 rounds, but that doesn't mean Floyd shouldn't get credit for beating him, either. Like the Klitschkos, it's not Mayweather's fault if there aren't many legitimate challenges out there for him right now.

            Mayweather/Matthysse should be next on Floyd's agenda.

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            • illmaticfighter
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              #26
              cotto ducked floyd at 140
              manny ducked floyd
              mosley ducked floyd
              hatton ducked floyd at 140

              the only point you dudes have is freaking margarito a guy who's whole career is tainted.

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                #27
                the reason floyd is held to a higher standard is because he is the top guy in the whole sport,,,

                With his status he should be fighting a srl, ali, oscar type schedule,,,

                But instead he fights a schedule that is worthy of a good fighter but not the best in the world.. and he does fake "retirements"

                yes if a ghost guerrero or tim bradley fought his schedule they would get high praise, because they are not considered the best in the game,...
                When your the absolute best,, the "truth" numero uno,,,, you are held to a higher standard because average paper champs like ortiz, ghost, and old, small, slow counterpunchers like jmm, and old shop worn fighters like cotto and mosely, are not deemed serious threats,,,
                people want to see floyd tested vs manny, bradley, serg, canelo no CW,
                If floyd would have had an oscar type schedule he would have fought shane, hatton, and cotto from 07-09 and finished with manny in 2010-11...
                Then you wouldnt hear all the complaining,,,,, Even if floyd's schedule was oscar, hatton, cotto, bum, bum, manny,,, people wouldnt have complained because he is still fighting top guys that people wanted to see..

                So yes floyd is held at a higher standard,,,

                He is the p4p #1 top draw, face of the sport,,,,,, of course he is going to be held to a higher standard than ggg, bradley, jmm, rigo,,,,,

                If you cant deal with the pressures of being #1, then maybe you should have stayed in fake "retirement"

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ßringer
                  It's easy to go through anybody's record throughout history and pick apart that guy's wins based on any number of excuses. I mean, you can do that to the records of guys like Ali and Robinson if you really wanted to. You could make those guys look like utter trash if you truly disliked them, and you'd probably even convince a few idiots on the internet that you were right. That doesn't make it so, though.

                  The only real ****ty opponents Mayweather has had in the last few years were Guerrero and Marquez. Both were never legitimate at the weight that Floyd fought them at. Marquez never even had a bout at that weight before, and Guerrero had only fought there once, against Berto, who was never anywhere near deserving of the smoke that HBO blew up our asses about him.

                  Other than that, Floyd's record only suffers from not having fought Pacquiao.

                  Canelo is the toughest opponet Floyd has fought since Oscar, IMO. I still don't think he's going to win more than 3 rounds, but that doesn't mean Floyd shouldn't get credit for beating him, either. Like the Klitschkos, it's not Mayweather's fault if there aren't many legitimate challenges out there for him right now.

                  Mayweather/Matthysse should be next on Floyd's agenda.
                  u must mean ortiz guerrero had two fights at ww

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    he agreed to all of floyd's demands multiple times and floyd wouldn't fight him. he walked away from an invisible meeting and its his fault? if only manny went to the meeting then floyd wouldn't change his demands over and over!
                    So you just going to make up **** to? Manny and Agreed dont even go in the same sentence because I dont recall any moment in time when Manny negotiated a fight on the behalf of Manny. Now you tell me if Bob Arum agreed to Mayweather's one demand of testing? Cause last time I checked it was Manny who presented multiple demands such as cutoff dates, 10,000,000 weight penalties, and a 50/50 splits that he dont deserve. And oh by the way Floyd agreed to all those ludicrous demands and Manny still walked!! Oh by the way Manny also ran away from the biggest purse he ever seen 40 Million!! Now thats the real story but if you insist on that fake **** you made up then let me know how that new stadium is coming along

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                    • Gorilla Dog
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      the reason floyd is held to a higher standard is because he is the top guy in the whole sport,,,

                      With his status he should be fighting a srl, ali, oscar type schedule,,,

                      But instead he fights a schedule that is worthy of a good fighter but not the best in the world.. and he does fake "retirements"

                      yes if a ghost guerrero or tim bradley fought his schedule they would get high praise, because they are not considered the best in the game,...
                      When your the absolute best,, the "truth" numero uno,,,, you are held to a higher standard because average paper champs like ortiz, ghost, and old, small, slow counterpunchers like jmm, and old shop worn fighters like cotto and mosely, are not deemed serious threats,,,
                      people want to see floyd tested vs manny, bradley, serg, canelo no CW,
                      If floyd would have had an oscar type schedule he would have fought shane, hatton, and cotto from 07-09 and finished with manny in 2010-11...
                      Then you wouldnt hear all the complaining,,,,, Even if floyd's schedule was oscar, hatton, cotto, bum, bum, manny,,, people wouldnt have complained because he is still fighting top guys that people wanted to see..

                      So yes floyd is held at a higher standard,,,

                      He is the p4p #1 top draw, face of the sport,,,,,, of course he is going to be held to a higher standard than ggg, bradley, jmm, rigo,,,,,

                      If you cant deal with the pressures of being #1, then maybe you should have stayed in fake "retirement"
                      Can you name the time and the duration of all Floyd's fake retirements..plural?

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