Fighting Current Champions = Safety First? (only if your Mayweather?)

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  • Gorilla Dog
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    Fighting Current Champions = Safety First? (only if your Mayweather?)

    I'm posing this question because below I see many threads claiming Floyd is a cherrypicker, has only beat 2 undefeated fighters, that he fights more leftovers than Manny Pacquiao, that he dont take tough challenges, that he ducks this guy and that guy, that he's safety first...

    My question is how is fighting nothing but current champions considered safety first? How can Floyd be said to not face tough challenges when all he does is fight champion after champion?

    Basically what I'm reading is that as far as this forum is concerned De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Alvarez (all current champions at the time) aren't tough challenges? Those are all easy fights, right?
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    His whole career consisted of him carefully selecting opponents to further his career. Floyd is now finally facing a legit threat in canelo, which he was cornered into making by SHO. Floyd thinks the 152lb catch weight will save him.

    He made a big mistake. Canelo ends hype-job

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    • MindBat
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      #3
      He needs a string of tomato canners on his resume to be considered legit.


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      • Gorilla Dog
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        Originally posted by Imatroll
        His whole career consisted of him carefully selecting opponents to further his career. Floyd is now finally facing a legit threat in canelo, which he was cornered into making by SHO. Floyd thinks the 152lb catch weight will save him.

        He made a big mistake. Canelo ends hype-job
        Whats so careful about fighting nothing but current champions? And how is Alvarez, a 22 year old kid, more legit than the proven veterans he's already fought? He's just another current champion that Floyd will beat, I'm not sure why you think so highly of the Red head, this will be easier for Floyd than the Oscar and Cotto fights.

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        • daggum
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          because there are 4 champs in each division? guys like davey boy greene and larry bonds would be champ in sugar ray leonards era. those guys were just tune ups to ray. they weren't "super fights" like floyd pretends his are. floyd avoided all the super fights for some reason and only does tune ups over and over. he either hates money or was scared.

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          • ßringer
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            The only fights that Floyd has taken recently that I have issue with were Guerrero and Marquez. Other than that, he's doing fine in my opinion.

            Still should have fought Pacquiao, though.

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              Floyd expressed concerns/worries non-verbally when he asked for the catch weight. I bet team mayweather thought Canelo wouldn't accept any catch weights after hearing team canelo state they will not go below 154lb. Canelo called their bluff and now they will pay with mayweathers head rolling into ellerbes arms.

              I'd be surprised if canelo doesn't break Floyd's shoulders and ribs in this fight. Floyd is going to get punished, it's going to be a depressing night for all mayweather fans

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              • Gorilla Dog
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                Originally posted by daggum
                because there are 4 champs in each division? guys like davey boy greene and larry bonds would be champ in sugar ray leonards era. those guys were just tune ups to ray. they weren't "super fights" like floyd pretends his are. floyd avoided all the super fights for some reason and only does tune ups over and over. he either hates money or was scared.
                Wait a minute I know and you know for a fact that Floyd called Marquez and Guerrero tune ups himself. But of course those same two fighters would be epic wins for other fighters, one in particular whose initials are MP

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                • Gorilla Dog
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Imatroll
                  Floyd expressed concerns/worries non-verbally when he asked for the catch weight. I bet team mayweather thought Canelo wouldn't accept any catch weights after hearing team canelo state they will not go below 154lb. Canelo called their bluff and now they will pay with mayweathers head rolling into ellerbes arms.

                  I'd be surprised if canelo doesn't break Floyd's shoulders and ribs in this fight. Floyd is going to get punished, it's going to be a depressing night for all mayweather fans
                  Wow, you guys really seem to think Alvarez is something special, to me he looks slow, flat footed, stiff, bad stamina, low output, inexperienced and out of his league

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                    Originally posted by Gorilla Dog
                    I'm posing this question because below I see many threads claiming Floyd is a cherrypicker, has only beat 2 undefeated fighters, that he fights more leftovers than Manny Pacquiao, that he dont take tough challenges, that he ducks this guy and that guy, that he's safety first...

                    My question is how is fighting nothing but current champions considered safety first? How can Floyd be said to not face tough challenges when all he does is fight champion after champion?

                    Basically what I'm reading is that as far as this forum is concerned De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Alvarez (all current champions at the time) aren't tough challenges? Those are all easy fights, right?
                    Because you need to analyze everything.

                    You named 5 WW that Floyd faced. One of them , Mosley, hadn't fought in over 16 months and had back to back training camps (both not good for OLD Mosley) and as Floyd himself said "my game plan will take into consideration that Mosley is now OLD"

                    Now you are left with the other 4 WW. Did you check how many fights at WW that those 4 had at WW? 4 Fighters fought a TOTAL of 4 WW fights!!! AND two of those were against Berto!

                    Oscar by then was a full time promoter and part time boxer. Go check out how many fights he was having and also his record over the last 3 or so years.

                    By the time Floyd fought Cotto, Cotto had been thru many wars and we all knew where that fight was headed to. Cotto did better than most expected which in itself shows what most people thought about that one. This fight took place 4-5 years too late.

                    Canelo is inexperienced and as Floyd's team admitted recently, Canelo has many weaknesses (flat-footed, low work-rate, stamina issues, inexperienced ..... ) plus Floyd made sure that the cards are stacked in Floyd's favor by inducing Canelo to go down to a CW of 152.

                    So that's the analysis ....

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