Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao Says Freddie Roach Fired Alex Ariza

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Everybody acts like manny doesnt ko anyone anymore,, not since 2009,,,

But look at the guys he is fighting,,,
Clottey- never been stopped
margs-- should have been stopped, but dude is as tough as they come and much bigger than manny
shane- oscar, vargas, forrest, winky, cotto, mayorga, margs, floyd, canelo, couldnt stop this guy yet manny was suppose too
jmm-- never been stopped
bradley- never been stopped,
jmm- once again never been stopped...

not like he is fighting khan and not getting ko's

[Evol]

For money?

So he's gonna ruin his reputation as a s/c coach and possibly lose out on a lot of money since nobody will wanna hire him and he's suppose to make money off of this?? that doesn't really make any sense lol. Put the haterade down bro I know u hate team PAC but that was completely ******ed lol.

[anonymous2.0]

Its good to see that Manny has a firm hand on his camp and employees. Most likely Bob told Freddy to fire Ariza and Manny stood there like a bobble head doll saying 'Its up to mah promoter'

[Evol]

I still do not get it,wasn't Manny the one paying Ariza?didn't Ariza have a contract with Manny? How does your trainer fire him?

Roach brought him in roach can take him out. Simple as that. Manny may be the one cutting out the checks to ariza but roach has the final say. Manny even called Freddie his master lol that right there should sum it up.

[anonymous2.0]

My only problems with Marquez are these:
- He wrote a book about how butthurt he was and claimed he was robbed many times, despite all fights being razor close and Manny outlanding him in compubox + knockdowns
- He drinks piss or used to, and that's disgusting
- He threw hissy fits after the losses to Pacquaio, even storming out of the arena, which was selfish to fans and unprofessional
- His attitude to do with testing atm in regards to Bradley is very ******, as is his request for a hydration clause
- He is refusing to give Pacquaio a rematch and a chance at redemption, and doesn't take into account he was losing the fight and thats why fans would like a 5th fight.

I haven't accused him of steroids, I just think he's a bit of a prick, acts very unprofessional at times and has always been bitter towards Pacquaio.

With the exception of the walk out which I agree but to a lesser degree, you've put so much spin and personal bias on those reasons even Bill O'Reilly would blink.

[waxfondler]

It's not even just a KO, we are talking extremely high KO and KD ratio. Or when you have cases where a fighter used to get knocked down by jabs, and is now taking extreme punishment with ease. Or fighters who were never was known for their power, is suddenly knocking guys out unconscious. Guys who fought relentlessly one fight, then next fight they get random drug tested, and now they aren't so aggressive.

i dont deny how dirty the sport is... but i personally wouldnt make allegations or discredit a fighter based on assumptions. opinion is one thing, but rallying and trying to make an agenda stick is another....

peterson & berto ACTUALLY get busted and it gets swept under the rug.... they fight on like nothing happened. yet other fighters get the full ****storm from allegations.... crazy.

[waxfondler]

manny reaction and floyd's reaction to the TRT question made both look extremely bad.

If manny had just been the real manny and told floyd "go **** yourself" from the get go everyone could respect that. or he could've called floyd's bluff.But he tried to keep the good guy image and that killed him.

When floyd or his dad start doing this kind of grimey **** you can't turn from it you have to get down in the gutter and meet it head on. Thats the only way to

i dont think pac should be punished for playing the good guy. you gotta realize what came first... the baseless accusations. you cant pin all the blame on how pac reacted and completely dismiss the initial offending act. if there were no accusations & special stipulations, the fight wouldve happened. simple. the drama that followed only hurt BOTH camps.

like i said previously, pac shouldve tested for all fights moving forward. at least for clottey and margs....

[radioraheem]

Good move, Pac hasn't knocked anyone out since Hatton. Ariza did nothing special. Time to hire memo that's where the good **** is at.

[radioraheem]

i dont deny how dirty the sport is... but i personally wouldnt make allegations or discredit a fighter based on assumptions. opinion is one thing, but rallying and trying to make an agenda stick is another....

peterson & berto ACTUALLY get busted and it gets swept under the rug.... they fight on like nothing happened. yet other fighters get the full ****storm from allegations.... crazy.

On this forum, it was just Pacquiao catching heat over possible drug use. Although, I had my su****ions about other fighters, not just him.

Then Peterson got busted, clear. He gets a lot of hate here now. Lots of posters happy he lost, they feel it's justice. Berto I feel was innocent, VADA claims he was too, said their findings suggest contaminated supplement. But he now gets lots of hate, many happy he lost twice. oh and let's not forget Marquez.

Other than Pacquiao, none gets allegations. I'm one of the few that names a bunch of fighters I think are suspect. No one questions Bernard Hopkins, Sergio Martinez, Lucas Matthysse, Victor Ortiz, etc.

[itsafight]

Sure, he could be using. But unlike those other fighters, he at least does random drug testing. The other guys I mentioned do not do it whatsoever.

Boxing isn't track and field. Second, for the drugs to really be effective in the body, they need to be used close to the fight. Stopping for two months prior they won't be so effective. Drugs don't just last forever in your system. But random testing is important because of the cycling off and on factors.

The only reason you talk the year round thing is because of Conte's mouth. I disagree. In boxing year round is useless. If you miss tests, what will happen? The Commission don't care because your not fighting. If you test positive, because you have no fight coming up, you can easily hide the results.

''cycling on and off''. You do realise it takes at least 30 days to fully get that **** out of your system right?