Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao Says Freddie Roach Fired Alex Ariza

[radioraheem]

Something doesn't ring true. How can Roach fire Ariza when Ariza is hired by Manny Pacquiao? What's next, Freddie Roach fires Manny's dentist and hair stylist? Makes no sense to me.

Maybe Roach forced his hand, saying he won't train him if he doesn't fire him.

[The Big Dunn]

Same old same old, you'll never resist a moment to bash Pacquaio, the 2009 testing, needles, blood being drawn weakening the body (you're clearly wrong about that, it's physiologically a very sound argument).

Again - I don't care if you think it isn't true, not wanting blood drawn too close to the fight because of psychological and physiological side-effects is very real, and the fact he said it after the Morales fight pretty much proves he has his own proof on how blood effects him. For every excuse you just claimed Pacquaio brought up (all in 2009 apparently) there are x3 as more that Mayweather has used, and they have spanned around 4 years now.

I responded to waxfondler with facts, why do you call that bashing manny?

Manny got blood drawn before tha Hatton fight and there was no mention of weakness. why, because he didn't lose. If you believe it fine. I don't. The I'm afraid of needles crap and the lying about the timeframe for blood being drawn from hatton have nothing to do with floyd. Manny did that himself.

as far as JMM goes, you and every other fringe manny fan defended manny's decision to not take test by saying "let the commission do its job". well it did and JMM came up clean.

Posters like you played yourself. You called floyd sr. everything under the sun yet when manny lost you did the same thing to JMM that he did to Manny. Just like floyd sr you threw JMM's integrity out the window without any factual eveidence. Just like floyd sr. you cited crcumstantial evidence to convict JMM.

Posters like you said floyd sr. did that to protect his son. How are you guys any different?Are you a crackhead, jailbird pimp like floyd sr.?

[waxfondler]

I'm probably the only poster su****ious of Matthysse and thinks he's gonna get knocked out because of the random drug testing he has to do for the first time.

gone are the days where punchers are appreciated.... every KO is greeted with su****ion and accusations.

[The Big Dunn]

totally agree with this. what team pac did AFTER the accusations is what made him suspect. personally, i chalked it up as pride and an unwillingness to bend to floyd's demands. at the time, pac had REAL negotiating power. so i wasnt surprised he met floyd's demands with a big "F** you". team mayweather insults the man and expects him to agree to said demands? diva stuff... bad for the sport. period.

IMO, pac shouldve done testing for his next immediate fight (clottey). problem solved.

but my beef was with the accusations... it was baseless. it was simply a b*tch move. simply a desperate attempt to discredit and derail pac's career... highschool girl ****.

manny reaction and floyd's reaction to the TRT question made both look extremely bad.

If manny had just been the real manny and told floyd "go **** yourself" from the get go everyone could respect that. or he could've called floyd's bluff.But he tried to keep the good guy image and that killed him.

When floyd or his dad start doing this kind of grimey **** you can't turn from it you have to get down in the gutter and meet it head on. Thats the only way to

[radioraheem]

Mayweather isn't su****ious??? On those big ass breaks he has he could be doing anything. Dude has so much money he could be purchasing undetectable designer drugs, everyone who doesn't test year round is su****ious imo.

Sure, he could be using. But unlike those other fighters, he at least does random drug testing. The other guys I mentioned do not do it whatsoever.

Boxing isn't track and field. Second, for the drugs to really be effective in the body, they need to be used close to the fight. Stopping for two months prior they won't be so effective. Drugs don't just last forever in your system. But random testing is important because of the cycling off and on factors.

The only reason you talk the year round thing is because of Conte's mouth. I disagree. In boxing year round is useless. If you miss tests, what will happen? The Commission don't care because your not fighting. If you test positive, because you have no fight coming up, you can easily hide the results.

[T18Z]

I responded to waxfondler with facts, why do you call that bashing manny?

Manny got blood drawn before tha Hatton fight and there was no mention of weakness. why, because he didn't lose. If you believe it fine. I don't. The I'm afraid of needles crap and the lying about the timeframe for blood being drawn from hatton have nothing to do with floyd. Manny did that himself.

as far as JMM goes, you and every other manny fan defended manny's decision to not take test by saying "let the commission do its job". well it did and JMM came up clean.

Posters like you played yourself. You called floyd sr. everything under the sun yet when manny lost you did the same thing to JMM that he did to Manny. Just like floyd sr you threw JMM's integrity out the window without any factual eveidence. Just like floyd sr. you cited crcumstantial evidence to convict JMM.

Posters like you said floyd sr. did that to protect his son. How are you guys any different?Are you a crackhead, jailbird pimp like floyd sr.?

If he did feel weak in the Hatton fight why would he say it? Is it not a smart to assume that Pacquaio could've entirely felt weakened but saying he was would be an insult to Hatton considering he destroyed him? My point is you are not the fighter, so don't discredit his words unless you have proof. When blood is drawn it can potentially weaken the body, I've had it happen to me, and it happens all over the world, you know that's the case, you just won't believe it (fine I guess, it's your opinion).

In regards to your rant over JMM I honestly don't understand what you are talking about, I think you're confused - I ain't ever accused him of steroids, I'm actually someone who is rather reluctant to call anyone out on steroids, because it can ruin a career. It's one of the reasons I see Mayweather as a very weak-minded child, because of how he attempted to de-fame Pacquaio.

My only problems with Marquez are these:
- He wrote a book about how butthurt he was and claimed he was robbed many times, despite all fights being razor close and Manny outlanding him in compubox + knockdowns
- He drinks piss or used to, and that's disgusting
- He threw hissy fits after the losses to Pacquaio, even storming out of the arena, which was selfish to fans and unprofessional
- His attitude to do with testing atm in regards to Bradley is very ******, as is his request for a hydration clause
- He is refusing to give Pacquaio a rematch and a chance at redemption, and doesn't take into account he was losing the fight and thats why fans would like a 5th fight.

I haven't accused him of steroids, I just think he's a bit of a prick, acts very unprofessional at times and has always been bitter towards Pacquaio.

[Stanly Ketchel]

I responded to waxfondler with facts, why do you call that bashing manny?

Manny got blood drawn before tha Hatton fight and there was no mention of weakness. why, because he didn't lose. If you believe it fine. I don't. The I'm afraid of needles crap and the lying about the timeframe for blood being drawn from hatton have nothing to do with floyd. Manny did that himself.

as far as JMM goes, you and every other fringe manny fan defended manny's decision to not take test by saying "let the commission do its job". well it did and JMM came up clean.

Posters like you played yourself. You called floyd sr. everything under the sun yet when manny lost you did the same thing to JMM that he did to Manny. Just like floyd sr you threw JMM's integrity out the window without any factual eveidence. Just like floyd sr. you cited crcumstantial evidence to convict JMM.Posters like you said floyd sr. did that to protect his son. How are you guys any different?Are you a crackhead, jailbird pimp like floyd sr.?

Stop dropping knowledge Al Haymon! Why you gotta open old wounds on the guy? What about the bad pair of tube socks that caused the loss to Morales eh????

[radioraheem]

gone are the days where punchers are appreciated.... every KO is greeted with su****ion and accusations.

It's not even just a KO, we are talking extremely high KO and KD ratio. Or when you have cases where a fighter used to get knocked down by jabs, and is now taking extreme punishment with ease. Or fighters who were never was known for their power, is suddenly knocking guys out unconscious. Guys who fought relentlessly one fight, then next fight they get random drug tested, and now they aren't so aggressive.

[MC Hammer]

Hope we don't see a major difference in performance. That would be su****ious or it would validate the importance of a S&C coach

[noStylez]

Good move, Pac hasn't knocked anyone out since Hatton. Ariza did nothing special. Time to hire memo that's where the good **** is at.