Wlad surpasses Holmes...

[Jedi Vader]

So everything you have against them is because of some biased opinion of some of their fans?

i am against extremes in either direction. calling them klitari and klits doesn't help that's for sure.

my opinion is that you are a big lennox fan and then you got in those pointless, endless discussions about lennox-vitali.

my opinion is that if fight with lennox never happened things would be much better. that's why you are more ok with wlad.

it's the typical pattern. how many people support vitali and were lennox fans. I am one of these. I actually rooted for lennox when they fought.

This post justifies everything I just previously wrote.

[RadioBox]

The most IRONIC thing about all this is that the fans from the Klitschko's homes (Germany and Ukraine) are mostly pure class... It's the Klitschko fans from North America and the UK who bring the Klitschkos down...


Actual German fans love Tyson,Foreman,Ali and even Lewis. The Ukrainian/Russian sites show nothing but respect to the Past ATG'S and rarely if ever bring up racism.

It is the fake Eastern European Nut Huggers who all claim they are from Eastern Europe but actually is from Canada that bring down the Klitschkos fan base.

[Simurgh]

This post justifies everything I just previously wrote.

what do you mean?

you were saying how you dislike klit fans for calling you racist etc... and that you don't like Ks because of their style. what does that have with my post?

[PolishPummler]

ATG status reached

[Jedi Vader]

The most IRONIC thing about all this is that the fans from the Klitschko's homes (Germany and Ukraine) are mostly pure class... It's the Klitschko fans from North America and the UK who bring the Klitschkos down...


Actual German fans love Tyson,Foreman,Ali and even Lewis. The Ukrainian/Russian sites show nothing but respect to the Past ATG'S and rarely if ever bring up racism.

It is the fake Eastern European Nut Huggers who all claim they are from Eastern Europe but actually is from Canada that bring down the Klitschkos fan base.

Great post.

[LacedUp]

The most IRONIC thing about all this is that the fans from the Klitschko's homes (Germany and Ukraine) are mostly pure class... It's the Klitschko fans from North America and the UK who bring the Klitschkos down...


Actual German fans love Tyson,Foreman,Ali and even Lewis. The Ukrainian/Russian sites show nothing but respect to the Past ATG'S and rarely if ever bring up racism.

It is the fake Eastern European Nut Huggers who all claim they are from Eastern Europe but actually is from Canada that bring down the Klitschkos fan base.

This makes me think of a specific guy, who's banned and loves his Klitschkos and heavyweights.

You know who..

[MRBOOMER]

Even though 99% of people may think that, it's because they are uneducated on the matter.

And it appears, you are too.

He was the youngest champion whatever ****ing belt you win your a world champion not a world belt holder. There's isn't a stipulation that says oh he has to beat this guy and hold this many titles to be the youngest champ. He won a world title he was world champion he was younger then Patterson and your just nit picking for no reason.

[LacedUp]

He was the youngest champion whatever ****ing belt you win your a world champion not a world belt holder. There's isn't a stipulation that says oh he has to beat this guy and hold this many titles to be the youngest champ. He won a world title he was world champion he was younger then Patterson and your just nit picking for no reason.

Do you know the meaning of a champion? "A person who has defeated all rivals in a competition I.e sports".

When Tyson won his first title, he still hadn't beaten the champion of the division, so how can he be a champion? the other guy (spinks) had beaten the man who beat the man, hence he was the champion. Because governing bodies want to make money by casting off their titles as "world champion belts" doesn't mean that it is in fact true. Tyson became the champion when he beat Spinks, because he had "defeated all rivals in a competition" in this case, the heavyweight division. Up until that point he essentially just held a belt that had been passed around for more than a decade, whilst the real champion, the man who beat the man, Larry Holmes, was defending the title.

I don't want to be talked over by you or anyone else, and certainly not when you're trying to point out a thing I've never said. which was only, that not everyone considers Tyson the youngest champion of all times.

I could create a belt as well, have to people fight for it and call the winner "the champion of the world". Does that make the winner the world champion?

[Danieltapia]

Could you imagine if Wlad had to defend against guy like Witherspoon and Shavers.

And NEW CHAMPION!!!......

[Simurgh]

Could you imagine if Wlad had to defend against guy like Witherspoon and Shavers.

And NEW CHAMPION!!!......