Wlad surpasses Holmes...

[Jedi Vader]

I just know that people won't give him credit even if he dominates till he is 50. it will always be 'he is beating bums, no tysons, no foremans, etc etc...'

and believe me he will dominate till he retires and he is not retiring till he's vitali's age that's for sure.

He probably will but it means diddly squat if he's not beating anyone of real note.

It's like a 16 year old regularly beating up 12 years olds over a 5 years period and then crowing about how great he is when all he has done is dominated against smaller younger kids.

[yoz]

So it's a fact that he's never fought or beat the best challenger isn't it. That's all we need to know about his reign seeing as we are dealing with stats and facts.

You haven't mentioned holding/clinching yet. Perhaps you ought to make a post about it?

Wladimir is champion and will be for some time yet. Accept it.

[Simurgh]

he is not slowing down. he was more aggressive than he usually is in that wach fight. he was fighting pianetta with his hands down.

haye was commenting that fight and believe me he was impressed. if he saw a single sign of wlad slowing down, bwe wouldn't hear the end of how haye wants the rematch.

watch povetkin wlad and you'll see. wlad is perfect sport specimen.

[Simurgh]

He probably will but it means diddly squat if he's not beating anyone of real note.

It's like a 16 year old regularly beating up 12 years olds over a 5 years period and then crowing about how great he is when all he has done is dominated against smaller younger kids.

then blame human DNA for not producing men good enough to challenge him.

P.S. why do you hate them so much? just curious.

[Jam Jars]

You haven't mentioned holding/clinching yet. Perhaps you ought to make a post about it?

Wladimir is champion and will be for some time yet. Accept it.

Holding is against the rules, that's a fact also. Thanks for bringing it up, Wlad constantly uses it to stop his opponents fighting which makes him a cheat.

So we have:
Weak opponents
Never beat the best challenger
He's a cheater

Not looking too good.........

[yoz]

Holding is against the rules, that's a fact also. Thanks for bringing it up, Wlad constantly uses it to stop his opponents fighting which makes him a cheat.

So we have:
Weak opponents
Never beat the best challenger
He's a cheater

Not looking too good.........

He beat the best challenger; in fact, he beat a heavyweight champ. I bet you lost a lot of money on the Haye-Klitschko fight, didn't you? You probably bought into the injury ****, too, didn't you?

Take you hate elsewhere, bro. You're just recycling the same **** in each Haye/Klitschko thread.

[yoz]

He's also fighting Povetkin in his next fight. An Olympic gold medalist, who has been ranked in the top 3/4 for the last 5 years.

[Jam Jars]

He beat the best challenger; in fact, he beat a heavyweight champ. I bet you lost a lot of money on the Haye-Klitschko fight, didn't you? You probably bought into the injury ****, too, didn't you?

Take you hate elsewhere, bro. You're just recycling the same **** in each Haye/Klitschko thread.

Isn't that what you do too? I'm stating facts here, do you only like positive ones? That's not fair.

[Jam Jars]

He's also fighting Povetkin in his next fight. An Olympic gold medalist, who has been ranked in the top 3/4 for the last 5 years.

Still not the number 2, how would Ali, Lewis, Holmes etc look if they never fought their biggest threats?

[soul_survivor]

Holmes fought some of the schitiest 'challengers' ever dude.

Yep, Holmes run at HW wasn't exactly great but he was a more exciting champ and his resume is still better than Wlad's.