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  • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    Margarito beat Cotto but he lost to Williams. Margarito vs Williams II would have made a new lineal champion.

    Floyd is/was recognised as the lineal champion because he beat Baldomir.



    Yeah and you don't. Shock. The point is Bradley refused to fight him (for whatever reason) so he never proved he was the man at 140.
    Floyd retired though,,, remember,,, You vacate titles when you retire,, he actually retired twice in the same year,,,, How can one be champion after you retire,,,,

    Please tell me how one is retired yet still champ,,, Does that mean lennox lewis is still the heavyweight champ of the world....

    floyd is a 2-time lineal champ at welter,, first by beating baldomir and the 2nd by beating shane....

    Yes bradley didnt take the fight with khan because khan was a risk and could ruin his chances at manny,, turned out to be the correct move because 2 years later, bradley has a big ppv with jmm and khan is getting decked by julio diaz
    I dont doubt at the time that khan was a threat to bradley, would have loved to see it, but i cant hate on bradley or any fighter that backs out to take a bigger more dangerous fight.....

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    • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      Floyd retired though,,, remember,,, You vacate titles when you retire,, he actually retired twice in the same year,,,, How can one be champion after you retire,,,,

      Please tell me how one is retired yet still champ,,, Does that mean lennox lewis is still the heavyweight champ of the world....

      floyd is a 2-time lineal champ at welter,, first by beating baldomir and the 2nd by beating shane....

      Yes bradley didnt take the fight with khan because khan was a risk and could ruin his chances at manny,, turned out to be the correct move because 2 years later, bradley has a big ppv with jmm and khan is getting decked by julio diaz
      I dont doubt at the time that khan was a threat to bradley, would have loved to see it, but i cant hate on bradley or any fighter that backs out to take a bigger more dangerous fight.....
      People mistake Bradley's comments for fear of getting beaten by "the better man". That is simply not the case. Just like on Saturday night, Karass was beating up on Berto in pretty one-sided fashion, I'm sure everyone can agree there. But what happens if Berto doesn't get stopped? He wins a SD on the cards as two of the judges had him up.

      Bradley was in Soto-Karass' shoes when the Khan fight was being discussed. He had no pull, HBO was talking heavily about pitting Khan with Mayweather as the "big money" fight. If Bradley fought Khan, there was a good chance that he could lose on the cards even if he beat the piss out of Khan just because it was better for the network to have Khan go on to face Floyd.

      Bradley doesn't have knockout power so more than likely, the fight does go to the cards. The only thing that saved Soto-Karass from losing on Saturday night was the ref stopping the fight after Berto got up from the canvas.

      Bradley is just a lot smarter than most other boxers, he makes wise choices for his career and it has paid off for him. With a Marquez win, he is going to be a top 3 P4P fighter and a PPV fighter most likely. He will be one of the top dogs while Khan will be closing out his career.

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      • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
        Floyd retired though,,, remember,,, You vacate titles when you retire,, he actually retired twice in the same year,,,, How can one be champion after you retire,,,,

        Please tell me how one is retired yet still champ,,, Does that mean lennox lewis is still the heavyweight champ of the world....

        floyd is a 2-time lineal champ at welter,, first by beating baldomir and the 2nd by beating shane....
        He didn't really retire though, did he? And no one restarted the lineage in his absence because the top 2 never fought. Why was Mosley never awarded the Ring Belt? Your excuse why Bradley didnt get it was because of GBP.

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        • Originally posted by mathed View Post
          People mistake Bradley's comments for fear of getting beaten by "the better man". That is simply not the case. Just like on Saturday night, Karass was beating up on Berto in pretty one-sided fashion, I'm sure everyone can agree there. But what happens if Berto doesn't get stopped? He wins a SD on the cards as two of the judges had him up.

          Bradley was in Soto-Karass' shoes when the Khan fight was being discussed. He had no pull, HBO was talking heavily about pitting Khan with Mayweather as the "big money" fight. If Bradley fought Khan, there was a good chance that he could lose on the cards even if he beat the piss out of Khan just because it was better for the network to have Khan go on to face Floyd.
          Great point. Khan had the Mayweather fight lined up but he still had the nuts to put it on the line against Bradley. Can't say the same for Timmy

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          • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            He didn't really retire though, did he? And no one restarted the lineage in his absence because the top 2 never fought. Why was Mosley never awarded the Ring Belt? Your excuse why Bradley didnt get it was because of GBP.
            Ring magazine is garbage,,,, like you said earlier, ring belt and lineal champ are 2 different things,,,,
            Everybody had margs as #1 after he beatdown cotto, then shane beat him down, then floyd beat shane,,, thats how floyd got the lineal...
            At the time manny was #1 or 2 at welter so how can we have a lineal champ when a guy retires, vacates all his belts and comes back and doesnt fight manny........
            Its because shane was considered the champ after beating down margs,, and shane lost his belt to floyd.....

            Im done for the night but good discussion with you Dirk

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            • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
              Ring magazine is garbage,,,, like you said earlier, ring belt and lineal champ are 2 different things,,,,
              Everybody had margs as #1 after he beatdown cotto
              But Margarito lost to Paul Williams. I guess that doesn't count?

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              • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                But Margarito lost to Paul Williams. I guess that doesn't count?
                yeah a year before, then margs came back and beat cotto, who was considered #1 once floyd left...

                like i said earlier
                1. cotto
                2. paul
                3. margs...

                nobody was fighting paul,,
                cotto and margs where the 1 and 3 guys and fought to determine the best...

                and Khan needed to beat bradley to get a floyd fight.... Bradley didnt need to beat khan to get a manny fight big difference,,,
                khan beat judah, why didnt he get a shot at floyd then,, because khan still needed to beat a top guy like peterson, then amir lost, and his hopes went down the drain...
                bradley had already beaten top guys at 140 like vasquez, peterson, witter, holt and alexander,,, Bradley was proven in big fights, khan wasnt as established-he only had the close win vs interm champ maidana..

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                • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                  But Margarito lost to Paul Williams. I guess that doesn't count?
                  Plus williams was moving up in weight at the time,, nobody knew where he was going to fight at......

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                  • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                    yeah a year before, then margs came back and beat cotto, who was considered #1 once floyd left...

                    like i said earlier
                    1. cotto
                    2. paul
                    3. margs...

                    nobody was fighting paul,,
                    cotto and margs where the 1 and 3 guys and fought to determine the best...

                    and Khan needed to beat bradley to get a floyd fight.... Bradley didnt need to beat khan to get a manny fight big difference,,,
                    khan beat judah, why didnt he get a shot at floyd then,, because khan still needed to beat a top guy like peterson, then amir lost, and his hopes went down the drain...
                    bradley had already beaten top guys at 140 like vasquez, peterson, witter, holt and alexander,,, Bradley was proven in big fights, khan wasnt as established-he only had the close win vs interm champ maidana..
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                    Plus williams was moving up in weight at the time,, nobody knew where he was going to fight at......
                    So you are basically rewarding ducking. Cotto/Margarito didn't fight Williams so you reward them with the lineal title. Bradley refused to fight Khan so you reward him with the lineal title.

                    Laughable stuff!

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                    • This guy i swear!!!!!!
                      You beat pac in one of the worst calls in boxing history.......then u survive a guy no one knows which u showed heart and chin but still u barely left standing an all the sudden u beat jmm an ur one of the best and in the HOF!!!!!!?????
                      First off jmm is not top three in the world not even top five not saying hes not one of the best but not that high up there!!!!!
                      I want bradley too loose already to stop this bs hype job of a fighter!!!!!!
                      Dont know if jmm is prepared to do so tho.....we will see.

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