Comments Thread For: Bradley: Beating Marquez Will Put Me in The Hall of Fame

[Sugar Adam Ali]

So any two champs can fight for the lineal championship? So could Alexander fight Bradley for the lineal welterweight championship if the title was vacant?

Not any 2 but if its 2 out of the top 3, then yes they can,,, Thats how pretty much any vacant lineal championship becomes determined,, much like how khan vs garcia filled the gap when bradley left.. its #1 guy vs 2 or 3... If floyd retired today then the welter championship would probably be the winner of jmm/bradley...

Alexander isnt top 3

So who do you think was the lineal champ after manny destroyed hatton and moved up... Who was the guy from late 2009-late2011

[mathed]

Think that falls under the category of "OK wins over B/C level competition".

How is it that he beat Abregu after moving up in weight who has since gone on to continuously win in convincing fashion against guys who were supposed to easily beat him? Dolurme was supposed to be "the next great boxer" and Abregu stomped a mudhole in him.

Peterson beat Khan in a very close fight, destroyed Holt and was only beaten by Matthysse, a KO machine that, for all intensive purposes, is pretty much still undefeated to this day.

Bradley somehow was the only guy able to beat Alexander. As I just alluded to, he did get a decision win over Matthysse which is pretty debatable but he still has the win on his record.

Ruslan, only had one SD loss on his record out of 30 fights and it was highly controversial, he admitted that he did not train properly before that fight but it seems like everyone besides himself thought he more than deserved that win.

If the guys that Bradley has fought and beaten are "c" level as you put it then there really are no A to B level fighters, they are all mediocre and the only athletes worthy of high praise are Mayweather, and the Klitchkos.

Even Wlad has losses on his record, so maybe he is only a "B" level fighter himself and just relies on his physical superiority to defeat the vast majority of his opponents. That would explain why he didn't want to fight Valuev because his decided advantage would not be there. That could be one way to look at it but I don't think that is the case, still it would put one's accomplishments into perspective wouldn't it?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Not any 2 but if its 2 out of the top 3, then yes they can

Are you reading what you are writing? No they can't. It's the top 2. Why in God's name would it be anything else other than the number 1 vs number 2? This is mind boggling!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Are you reading what you are writing? No they can't. It's the top 2. Why in God's name would it be anything else other than the number 1 vs number 2? This is mind boggling!

Because this is boxing and rarely to the top 2 guys ever fight,,, remember manny vs floyd, bradley vs floyd now, or when ward was crowned #1 even though Bute was thought of as the #2... It happens all the time

When floyd "retired" as welter champ,,, Cotto was looked at the #1 guy and Margs #3,,,,, Paul williams was #2 because he beat margs the year before,,
Yet Margs beating cotto made him #1 and then shane beat him, and floyd beat shane.....

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Are you reading what you are writing? No they can't. It's the top 2. Why in God's name would it be anything else other than the number 1 vs number 2? This is mind boggling!

By the way you never answered the question of who was the best 140 after pac left,...

who was the best from mid 2009 till late 2011... who was #1

[Dirk Diggler UK]

When floyd "retired" as welter champ,,, Cotto was looked at the #1 guy and Margs #3,,,,, Paul williams was #2 because he beat margs the year before,,
Yet Margs beating cotto made him #1 and then shane beat him, and floyd beat shane.....

And NONE of them were lineal champion

[Dirk Diggler UK]

By the way you never answered the question of who was the best 140 after pac left,...

who was the best from mid 2009 till late 2011... who was #1

Never got to find out because Bradley ducked Khan

[Sugar Adam Ali]

And NONE of them were lineal champion

Really then how does one fill a vacant lineal champ,,, Shane gets credit for beating margs who beat cotto in the biggest welter fight when floyd ducked out,, and floyd is recognized as lineal champ because he beat shane,,,,,,

How did they fill the lineal championship when calzaghe retired... Dawson was assumed to be the best, he beat adamek, tarver, johnson,, then lost to pascal who got beat by hopkins who lost to dawson who lost to stevenson,,, everybody thinks stevenson as the true champ, yet a #1 and #2 never fought

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Never got to find out because Bradley ducked Khan

So you think bradley ducked khan,,,

so in theory you would take a job for 2 mil as oppose to any easy job for 1 mil plus another harder job for 5 mil

you would rather have 2 mil instead of 5 mil.....

He backed out of the fight to fight a tougher fight in manny

Its not like he ducked khan and then went and fought pauli or zab,,, he went for manny..

It would be like if floyd didnt fight canelo, but instead went after GGG

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Really then how does one fill a vacant lineal champ,,, Shane gets credit for beating margs who beat cotto in the biggest welter fight when floyd ducked out,, and floyd is recognized as lineal champ because he beat shane,,,,,,

Margarito beat Cotto but he lost to Williams. Margarito vs Williams II would have made a new lineal champion.

Floyd is/was recognised as the lineal champion because he beat Baldomir.

So you think bradley ducked khan,,,

Yeah and you don't. Shock. The point is Bradley refused to fight him (for whatever reason) so he never proved he was the man at 140.