Can you be considered an ATG when these are your 10 best wins?

[DreamFighter]

ali beats vitali by a big margin but no way does he knock him out. ali wasnt a big puncher and vitali's chin is cement. dont think louis takes him out either

I'd agree with that about Ali, I think it would be a late tko with vitalis face getting ripped up by the repeated jabs hes powerless to stop.

Liston could well take Vitali but its a good chance Vits survives if he fights to lose (running, clinching, avoiding).

[beez721]

I'd agree with that about Ali, I think it would be a late tko with vitalis face getting ripped up by the repeated jabs hes powerless to stop.

Liston could well take Vitali but its a good chance Vits survives if he fights to lose (running, clinching, avoiding).

yea,,I could could see ali stopping him on cuts or injury. just cant see him knocking vitali spark out

[Tommo1]

Gosh, degenerated into a nuthugger thread. What about Sugar Ray Robinson? Faster than Vitali, great record, he should whip Vitali right?

If you think Vitali would lose to this piss weak calibre of opponent by comparison like Ali or Louis then it's so far gone its just silly to debate!

Geez I might as well fight Vitali if he's THAT easily beat!

Not 1 proper loss,
never lost more than 2 rounds in a fight,
never been behind on points,
among the highest KO ratio of real HWs,
heftiest opposition of any boxer,
never been knocked down,
6'7" 245lbs trim, 80" reach. (Statistically being out ranged and outweighed together combined puts one at a massive disadvantage)
HW record comparison- Vitali 45-2 to Ali 28-4

There is more chance of me winning the lottery than Sonny Liston or Muhammad Ali beating Vitali Klitschko.

Let's augment that signature...

Liston, Marciano, Louis and Ali together as pall bearers are not fit enough to carry either Klitschko's jock strap! And that's really just an obvious fact from anyone not a nuthugging American reminiscing about the good old times. You got beaten fair and square by bigger and superior boxers. Deal with it!

[JAB5239]

yea,,I could could see ali stopping him on cuts or injury. just cant see him knocking vitali spark out

The only way Ali could stop him were if Vits ran out of gas. Not out of the question, but I wouldn't bank on it. Wide UD for Ali.

[JAB5239]

Louis nearly got knocked out by an emperor penguin! You know who!

Ali got pasted in every fight he faced a decent opponent and none of them had the range of Vitali or the weight.

Liston is a 1st round KO for Vitali, I don't see any opponent on Vitali's resume as bad as Liston.

Liston still managed to connect with Ali when he was in range.

Ali will beat Vitali every round right? Despite the fact Vitali has never been behind on points and never lost more than 2 rounds in any fight and Ali struggled with terrible opponents by comparison? Not likely!

Ali would be Vitali's bottom 3 lightest opponent.

Ali near the Liston stage got KD by a 185lb Cooper. LENNOX LEWIS couldn't even knock Vitali down!

It's clear. Ali and Louis could not carry Vitali Klitschko's jockstrap between them! You can stick THAT in your signature! LOL

Louis destroyed Carnera. Watch him and Vits and you will see almost identical styles. Big men never troubled Louis.

[JAB5239]

Gosh, degenerated into a nuthugger thread. What about Sugar Ray Robinson? Faster than Vitali, great record, he should whip Vitali right?

If you think Vitali would lose to this piss weak calibre of opponent by comparison like Ali or Louis then it's so far gone its just silly to debate!

Geez I might as well fight Vitali if he's THAT easily beat!

Not 1 proper loss,
never lost more than 2 rounds in a fight,
never been behind on points,
among the highest KO ratio of real HWs,
heftiest opposition of any boxer,
never been knocked down,
6'7" 245lbs trim, 80" reach. (Statistically being out ranged and outweighed together combined puts one at a massive disadvantage)
HW record comparison- Vitali 45-2 to Ali 28-4

There is more chance of me winning the lottery than Sonny Liston or Muhammad Ali beating Vitali Klitschko.

Let's augment that signature...

Liston, Marciano, Louis and Ali together as pall bearers are not fit enough to carry either Klitschko's jock strap! And that's really just an obvious fact from anyone not a nuthugging American reminiscing about the good old times. You got beaten fair and square by bigger and superior boxers. Deal with it!

You truly lack any kind of boxing knowledge.....seriously.

[DreamFighter]

and/or the right medication, I would add.

[Tommo1]

I just presented the honest facts. I'm n even nuthugging Vitali.

I personally think Vitali quitting against Byrd was one of the most shameful things I ever saw in boxing. Merchant was correct, he did not display the mentality of a champion and to Ali's credit, he was tougher in this sense because he fought on with a broken jaw etc etc! I get it.

But for Christ sake anybody with any sort of basic analysis and observational skills would see that it is physically impossible for Ali or Louis to win.

I mean JAB, you just compared Vitali with Carnera. I've seen him of course and I have to say that comparison just exposes your complete bias. Carnera is a complete oaf whit no appreciable skill whatsoever, comparable to maybe Nikolay Valuev. Vitali Klitschko is a highly skilled, technical giant. You don't go 45-2 in todays game, hardly losing a round and never being knocked down by being anything less than very special!

Let me tell you the REAL secret of Ali and Louis's success...

Ali outweighed 70% of his opponents and little Louis 90%! Of the ones Ali was outweighed by he still out ranged most of them!

So you see a more reasonable explanation for there success is that they are BIG BULLIES! The opponents who were much bigger were by and large absolute oafs with no appreciable skills whatsoever!

You said Louis beat Carnera, I say big deal, what decent HW could not beat Carnera today!

Louis DID nearly get KTFO by Danny Devito's grandfather though and beat by a 193lb Schmelling. To that I say "What HW today would be threatened by these guys?" Not a great many I should judge!

[Weltschmerz]

Louis destroyed Carnera. Watch him and Vits and you will see almost identical styles. Big men never troubled Louis.

Comparing Primo Carnera to Vitali shows your laughable agenda yet again.

[Weltschmerz]

Vitali would have been Ali's best win, should he have come out victorious.