Can you be considered an ATG when these are your 10 best wins?

[BattlingNelson]

That's not good enough. We need to see where you rank him exactly, who you have before and after him, why they're rated where they are and the criteria you use to come to these conclusions. I mean if you don't provide all this it could very well mean you have an agenda. Get crackin son!

Hey. Shut up. It's your thread and you not having the guts to show your list says everything we need to know about you. Gutless hypocrite you are.

[Jedi Vader]

Hey. Shut up. It's your thread and you not having the guts to show your list says everything we need to know about you. Gutless hypocrite you are.

You asked me for mine and I duly gave you my 15. You scowled at Patterson which is fair enough but I still gave it to you.

How about you give your top 20 instead of ducking and asking everyone else for theirs.

[BattlingNelson]

You asked me for mine and I duly gave you my 15. You scowled at Patterson which is fair enough but I still gave it to you.

How about you give your top 20 instead of ducking and asking everyone else for theirs.

You didn't give me your rankings at all. Post those above Vitali...... No don't bother. You have him at about 75 all time which is all I need to know. You are irrelevant. I want the rankings of the oftbanned gutless, yellow, hypocrite TS.

[Jedi Vader]

You didn't give me your rankings at all. Post those above Vitali...... No don't bother. You have him at about 75 all time which is all I need to know. You are irrelevant. I want the rankings of the oftbanned gutless, yellow, hypocrite TS.

I gave you my Top 15 fighters so stop lying.

I'm so irrelevant that you asked me for them in the first place and continue to respond to my posts.

Post your Top 20. Of course, you won't because it would invalidate what you've been saying on this thread.

[r.burgundy]

Norton won the first fight after breaking Ali's jaw early. The second two fights were competitive, in no way did he dominate Ali. If it makes you feel better I thought Norton won the 3rd, but it was still a competitive fight. Just like Byrd Vittles. By your logic Byrd would have done better in a second fight. I notice you didn't reply back to that post.

i know it breaks your heart to say it,but norton beat ali up.you honestly gonna try to say norton wasnt the superior fighter in that series

byrd or vits.either could have done better.i did reply back to that post

[r.burgundy]

Walcott was champion and Charles was 32.

did charles even win another meaningful fight after rocky since you keep saying its about what klits opponents do afterwards?and walcot retired.those guys were all the way finished

[New England]

While I wouldn't argue to adamantly about Charles, I disagree about Walcott. His first fight with Marciano was an excellent showing till getting sparked in the 13th.

i'd hope you wouldn't argue at all about charles, because he was f#cking done.

you think jersey joe walcott was at his best when he fought rocky marciano?
that's wrong.

jab he was ancient, and at the very end of his career. a 39 year old pro athlete in the 50's was ancient. in his next fight he was stopped in the first (my marciano,) before retiring. he hit marciano, but so did almost everybody else. styles make fights, and a t rex armed pressure / swarmer against a counterpuncher with a six or seven inch reach advantage is going to lend itself to being hit. maybe that's what you're confusing with him being prime.

a "good showing" and being prime are not equal.




you guys really should let this thread die. looking through it there's some embarrassing behavior.

[JAB5239]

Hey. Shut up. It's your thread and you not having the guts to show your list says everything we need to know about you. Gutless hypocrite you are.

You didn't give me your rankings at all. Post those above Vitali...... No don't bother. You have him at about 75 all time which is all I need to know. You are irrelevant. I want the rankings of the oftbanned gutless, yellow, hypocrite TS.

You calling me gutless and a hypocrite is rich!! I've answered all your questions yet you keep ducking mine. I've posted my list yet you're to frightened to post your own. You been called out on several lies about me in this thread yet choose to ignore it instead of manning up. And you're calling me gutless, yellow and a coward?

By the way, check out the poll. Vittles is certainly no ATG in th eyes of boxingscene. Live with it, son.

[JAB5239]

Still waiting on Bats list.

[Daddy T]

lol at this thread and I used to think Bat was a decent poster ... anyway I won't argue with anyone who wants to stick Vits as high as number 20 or so in their list so whatever to the rest of it.