Originally posted by beez721
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Can you be considered an ATG when these are your 10 best wins?
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostAll your posts have been answered and so has every question through out this thread by either myself or one of the other very reasonable people who realize Vits, while being a very good fighter and a probable h2h nightmare for most fighters in history, is simply not an all time great because of a very weak resume. You on the other hand refuse to answer (just like every other Vitaly stan) what it is that puts him ahead of more accomplished fighters with better resumes. You refuse to answer what other ATG heavyweight holds NO wins over another ATG or HOFer. You would rather say things like "you got destroyed" or "your agenda was exposed" and ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority agree with me. So I'll ask you again, have they all been destroyed too? Do they all have an agenda also?
An ATG is per definition hightly subjective and still you got the nerve to ridicule those who rank Vitali as say no. 20 while you yourself on that highly subjective list has him JUST outside. Talk about being a hippocrite.
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Originally posted by beez721 View Postlol,,saying vitali isnt a hofer is every bit as ludicrous as his fanboys calling him a top 10 atg. laughable
Apart from being in a family of champions....genetics doesn't qualify you for HOF just yet, boxings not THAT corrupt yet.
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vitali is definitely an atg fighter and top 20 hw in history.you can only fight who is put in front of you.people try and put smokin joe in a top 10 list and he has 1 great win over ali.ive seen guys like norton get atg praise.who in the hell did joe louis beat that was great?maxschmelling lol.vitali is the most dominant hw champ since tyson and deserves some respect.his title reign is no different from roy jone,hopkins,or any other champ who has ever had a sustained run
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Originally posted by r.burgundy View Postvitali is definitely an atg fighter and top 20 hw in history.you can only fight who is put in front of you.people try and put smokin joe in a top 10 list and he has 1 great win over ali.ive seen guys like norton get atg praise.who in the hell did joe louis beat that was great?
vitali is the most dominant hw champ since Tyson
But yes he deserves some respect.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View Postyou are laughing joe louis's atg status? good luck with that.
hes number two HW at his very best.
But yes he deserves some respect.
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Originally posted by r.burgundy View Postboxing is the absolute worst when it comes to giving credit.every other sport can recognize its great athletes regardless of era,but not boxing lol.cause such and such didnt fight in 1960 he isnt good.**** is just plain silly.joe louis had the absolute worst competition of any hw champ and he still managed to lose,but yet he gets a lifetime pass for some odd reason.
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I've still yet to see one person actually answer the simple questions that Jabs has asked to be answered and instead, there's just been pure nuthugging and childish name calling. Even if someone tried to answer and maybe got their facts wrong, at least that would count for something but, no. Just look at BattlingNelson's pathetic posts in the thread as perfect evidence to support what I'm getting at.
Personally, I don't think H2H ranking has anything to do with whether you're an ATG or not. The fact of that matter is quite simple, Klitali isn't an ATG and he's borderline HoF. He hasn't beaten any fighter of any note and will only be remembered for his 2 defeats. That's 2 defeats he never even tried to avenge either.
You Klitlickers are simply the worst 'fans' on Boxingscene.
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Originally posted by Jedi Vader View PostI've still yet to see one person actually answer the simple questions that Jabs has asked to be answered and instead, there's just been pure nuthugging and childish name calling. Even if someone tried to answer and maybe got their facts wrong, at least that would count for something but, no. Just look at BattlingNelson's pathetic posts in the thread as perfect evidence to support what I'm getting at.
Personally, I don't think H2H ranking has anything to do with whether you're an ATG or not. The fact of that matter is quite simple, Klitali isn't an ATG and he's borderline HoF. He hasn't beaten any fighter of any note and will only be remembered for his 2 defeats. That's 2 defeats he never even tried to avenge either.
You Klitlickers are simply the worst 'fans' on Boxingscene.
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