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  • #51
    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
    Cotto was asked to fight Martinez and he was even considering Golovkin, if I remember correctly.

    Pacquiao has been asked to fight Martinez. I mean he fought Margarito for the JMW championship, so I really don't see why not. In fact, Martinez is a JMW fighting at MW and he's smaller than Marg.

    Marquez just has Pac's number. He's truly a JWW at best. Can't imagine him fighting regularly any bigger than that.

    Broner definitely has the frame to go as high as JMW. But first he has to at least prove himself at JWW lol


    Floyd beat DLH for the JMW belt back in 2007. I can't see why he can't fight a Martinez at 154. Although I think Floyd will lose, sure he can fight Golovkin at 154 also. He has no business in the ring with Ward whatsoever. That's crap
    are you ****ing serious?

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    • #52
      I do find it strange that people expect and demand a Welterweight who has never weighed in more than 151 lbs in his 2 fights above welterweight to fight a career MW who's been no lower than 159 in the last 7 years an as high as 161.

      That is something I find quite baffling.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by BoxingFollower View Post
        Now Floyd is not Thomas Hearns, Ray Robinson nor Ray Leonard size.
        Although Duran did and is smaller than Floyd.

        But why aren't other WW's offer big challenges? People say that he should fight Martinez, Glovokin and even Andre Ward.

        Why aren't Cotto, Pacquiao, Broner, Marquez and others asked to take on these much bigger men?

        So my point is, Mayweather should be too big to fight the Cottos, Pacquiaos of the world.
        Ever wonder why Floyd never allows his fight night weight to be measured? In reality he's on the larger side of welterweight these days, he sized up against Mosely, Delahoya and Ortiz easily, visually you can see he is bigger than what the stats say.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Prime 407 View Post
          Ever wonder why Floyd never allows his fight night weight to be measured? In reality he's on the larger side of welterweight these days, he sized up against Mosely, Delahoya and Ortiz easily, visually you can see he is bigger than what the stats say.
          smh at this nonsense..

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Triumph 916 View Post
            You're not understanding...

            Example: Most think Canelo should use his size against Floyd, meaning smother, lean on & just make it as rough as possible.

            Floyd vs JMM was Floyd being the bigger guy but still fighting JMM from the outside making it as fair as it could possibly be. There was no rough housing at all in that fight...nobody walked away saying "damn, Floyd used his size"...he fought JMM as he would any other guy & that's why he got criticized...he didn't go for the kill!
            Hey I'm sure Wlad would KO Floyd just with his jab, no powerpunches or leaning involved. Hence he must be much much better, since he wouldn't even have to exercise his size advantage! Yeah I know it's ******, it's your argument.

            Size advantage has many facets besides the leaning and mauling, some of which came into play:

            superior length, keeping out of reach
            not feeling the smaller guy's punches
            having your opponent feel your punches more, being used to smaller guys punches
            having an opponent that's bloated and slow, gaining weight eating tacos and throwing rocks

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            • #56
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              I do find it strange that people expect and demand a Welterweight who has never weighed in more than 151 lbs in his 2 fights above welterweight to fight a career MW who's been no lower than 159 in the last 7 years an as high as 161.

              That is something I find quite baffling.
              If he's a SWW champ (The Champ!) he really should be able to face anyone that can weigh in 154. He definitely shouldn't need every excuse in the book

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Prime 407 View Post
                Ever wonder why Floyd never allows his fight night weight to be measured? In reality he's on the larger side of welterweight these days, he sized up against Mosely, Delahoya and Ortiz easily, visually you can see he is bigger than what the stats say.
                I really do wonder. Most of all I wonder how so many of his fans are tripping all over themselves to give him weight excuses repeatedly, having in mind his unwillingness to weigh in fight night. Boggles the mind

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                • #58
                  If he was too big for the weight class he wouldn't be able to make weight, which he does easily. He's lean and lanky, with great reach. You can't blame him for having physical advantages.

                  He's not too big for the weight class. But I think he's good enough to test all the 154 pounders. If he wants to go down in the same league as Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Leonard, and the such, he needs to take some crazy risks. He'd probably win them all. I just wish Floyd was a little more ambitious, he could go down as the greatest. But I think he's far too scared of losing.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                    If he's a SWW champ (The Champ!) he really should be able to face anyone that can weigh in 154. He definitely shouldn't need every excuse in the book
                    7 year career middleweights who have never been lower than MW don't usually come under "people who can make 154".

                    Not at least until they actually do it once.

                    And he definitely shouldn't be expected to fight him until whilst still being at MW for his 8th year and counting.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                      I really do wonder. Most of all I wonder how so many of his fans are tripping all over themselves to give him weight excuses repeatedly, having in mind his unwillingness to weigh in fight night. Boggles the mind
                      I might be wrong, but since the JMM fight he's been allowing them to weigh him fight night for practically every fight. I'm quite sure of this.

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