Isn't Floyd to big for other Welterweights?

[IronDanHamza]

well at least you have to scale it a little lol. Floyd is a champ at 154. The equivalent is 118. Next division down is 115. I'll grant you these are spaced closer, but at least pick 112, 109 makes it seem like you're reaching for excuses.

Bottom line, is Floyd a SWW champ in your mind or not?

What are you talking about? I'm picking the exact differences in weight. As in, literally the exact differences. That's not reaching, that's just pointing out the exact differences in LB's as the Mayweather-Golovkin situation.

How many times? 118 is not the eqivilent of 154. 115 is the eqivlent of 154. 115 is 7 lbs south of 122. 154 is 6 lbs south of 160.

147 - 13 lbs south of 160

109 (108) - 13 lbs south of 160


115 - 7 lbs south of 160

154 - 6 lbs south of 160

151, heaviest Floyd has weighed in. Eqilvent = 112

I consider Mayweather a Champion at 154. I consider him a very small Jr MW and a Welterweight who selectively fights at Jr MW, a total of 2 times in the last 6 years to be exact.

I don't expect someone who fits this criteria to fight a career MW unless of course that career MW moves down in weight and puts himself in position.

[HeroBando]

What are you talking about? I'm picking the exact differences in weight. As in, literally the exact differences. That's not reaching, that's just pointing out the exact differences in LB's as the Mayweather-Golovkin situation.

How many times? 118 is not the eqivilent of 154. 115 is the eqivlent of 154. 115 is 7 lbs south of 122. 154 is 6 lbs south of 160.

147 - 13 lbs south of 160

109 (108) - 13 lbs south of 160


115 - 7 lbs south of 160

154 - 6 lbs south of 160

151, heaviest Floyd has weighed in. Eqilvent = 112

I consider Mayweather a Champion at 154. I consider him a very small Jr MW and a Welterweight who selectively fights at Jr MW, a total of 2 times in the last 6 years to be exact.

I don't expect someone who fits this criteria to fight a career MW unless of course that career MW moves down in weight and puts himself in position.

Do you understand about proportion? There is a reason why there's 1 weight class between welter and middle, and 3 between 109 and 122. Can you make a guess? Hint: see first sentence

So you consider Floyd a selective champ at SWW? There's less nice ways of putting that. But I get your gist, at 154 he's the champ of big money past prime guys that started at JWW or lower

[Doctor_Tenma]

Do you understand about proportion? There is a reason why there's 1 weight class between welter and middle, and 3 between 109 and 122. Can you make a guess? Hint: see first sentence

So you consider Floyd a selective champ at SWW? There's less nice ways of putting that. But I get your gist, at 154 he's the champ of big money past prime guys that started at JWW or lower

So what does DLH and Cotto have to do with Golovkin, pertaining to this discussion. It's like you ran out of ammo as soon as you started this ****** argument, now your throwing feathers

[IronDanHamza]

Do you understand about proportion? There is a reason why there's 1 weight class between welter and middle, and 3 between 109 and 122. Can you make a guess? Hint: see first sentence

So you consider Floyd a selective champ at SWW? There's less nice ways of putting that. But I get your gist, at 154 he's the champ of big money past prime guys that started at JWW or lower

Then the discussion on the matter is moot from there because the proportion is different.

And yes like I have said multiple times Mayweather is nothing but a paper Champion at 154 as it stands.

He fights there only for big money fights, nothing more.

His ideal weight is 147 hence the fact he always fights there unless there's a money fight available at 154 and when he does fight there the heaviest he'd weighed in is 151 lbs.

I don't except a person who fits this criteria to fight a 7 year career MW unless of course that career MW moves down and puts himself into position. Then I would expect it.

I feel like I've said this a few times before.

[IronDanHamza]

So what does DLH and Cotto have to do with Golovkin, pertaining to this discussion. It's like you ran out of ammo as soon as you started this ****** argument, now your throwing feathers

That's how I feel.

[HeroBando]

So what does DLH and Cotto have to do with Golovkin, pertaining to this discussion. It's like you ran out of ammo as soon as you started this ****** argument, now your throwing feathers

Cotto and DLH are the guys that Floyd beat for the SWW belts duh. Is he a SWW champ in your mind or not? If he is, too small is not a valid excuse, try something else

[Doctor_Tenma]

Cotto and DLH are the guys that Floyd beat for the SWW belts duh. Is he a SWW champ in your mind or not? If he is, too small is not a valid excuse, try something else

How does that relate to Golovkin being a career MW, and never having campaigned at 154 though?

[HeroBando]

And yes like I have said multiple times Mayweather is nothing but a paper Champion at 154 as it stands.

Cool then I don't know why we're arguing. I wouldn't expect a paper SWW champ to face GGG, but a genuine champ, sure. There's plenty of people in this thread that would disagree with you on that (tho not as many as before may 2013), I'm addressing these guys.

Aren't you just a little troubled that this imposter champ might soon be holding the "lineal" belt at this weight, plus a bunch more? You just said even that won't qualify him as genuine champ (due to CW?), so it's an interesting situation, double so since unlike other hit and run paper champs, he's proven he'll hold onto it without intention to defend at the regulation weight

[HeroBando]

How does that relate to Golovkin being a career MW, and never having campaigned at 154 though?

He says he can make it no problem, will do it for Floyd, Canelo, even Cotto. Even as a MW he rehydrates lower than many SWWs, including Floyd's next opponent.

[IronDanHamza]

Cool then I don't know why we're arguing. I wouldn't expect a paper SWW champ to face GGG, but a genuine champ, sure. There's plenty of people in this thread that would disagree with you on that (tho not as many as before may 2013), I'm addressing these guys.

Aren't you just a little troubled that this imposter champ might soon be holding the "lineal" belt at this weight, plus a bunch more? You just said even that won't qualify him as genuine champ (due to CW?), so it's an interesting situation, double so since unlike other hit and run paper champs, he's proven he'll hold onto it without intention to defend at the regulation weight

I wouldn't even think a genuine Jr MW should expected to fight a career MW but it would certainly be more plausible.

I don't expect Welterweights to fight career MW's though. I don't expect any Welterweight's who aren't full time Jr MW's to fight career MW's unless that career MW moves down in weight and into position.

As for the belt, I don't like people fighting for belts at Catchweight's. It's not new to the sport and something that's always going to happen but it's not something I like or have I ever liked.

That said, this fight isn't about the belt. This fight is bigger than the "belts" so I'll brush aside my distaste for the belts being on the line considering it's the best fight in Boxing.

It's really irrelevant because as soon as the fights over, Mayweather will head straight back down to his actual divison, Welterweight.