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  • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
    He's only once hit 10lb rehydration. If you're under 10lbs, in this day and age that's smallish. Solid, fine, nitpicking. Canelo just went up 18.

    If that fighter was p4p #1, 2x, unified, lineal bantam champ, I think the fans would be licking their chops over the matchup, especially if Rigo said he'd drop down.
    If you rehydrate 10 lbs above your weigh in weight then you are not small for that particular weight. The terms "small" and "solid" are not the same.

    Again, until Rigondeaux were drop down to 116 from being at 122 for the last 7 years to fight a guy at 116 (his 5th weight class) who usually fights at 109 I would very much doubt anyone would expect the smaller man to have that fight or even want the fight at all actually.

    I would most likely rather he move up 1 weight class, 8 lbs heavier than he's been at the last 7 years and fight the p4p #2 than the first option. That also seems a lot more logical than a career MW fighting a guy who's never weighed in more than 151 lbs and in his 5th weight class there. But that's just me.

    That hypothetical Rigondeax example actually puts in perspective how ridiculous the idea of this fight is in more than anything in all honesty.
    Last edited by IronDanHamza; 07-24-2013, 04:47 PM.

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    • Originally posted by J The UnBiased View Post
      yeah because everyone's ducking the ATG Golovkin.....whatever...this dude won't beat a past prime Sergio. I proudly do not believe the hype surrounding this GGG kid, I think he has great punching power and a fighters temperament, he has a decent set of skills as well, but he is the most exaggerated fighter since Manny Pacquiao. I don't think he can make 154, and don't think he beats Sergio or Quillin who both campaign in his division. I also think he gets beat by Ward at 168. I think Golovkin looks tremendous when he's fighting C and D level fighters, but when he eventually ups his competition we will see how good he is. I don't think he's that great of a fighter, honestly. He can punch.
      that's because you're a racist boxing fan who only loves black fighters and hate on non black fighters. Are you stephen a smith? GGG is the real deal and would/will crush sergio. LOL at you calling a 8 division, 4 lineal division champion, fighter of the decade, ATG, hall of fame boxer an exaggeration.

      You should change your name to J the Biased.

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      • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        If you rehydrate 10 lbs above your weigh in weight then you are not small for that particular weight. The terms "small" and "solid" are not the same.

        Again, until Rigondeaux were drop down to 116 from being at 122 for the last 7 years to fight a guy at 116 (his 5th weight class) who usually fights at 109 I would very much anyone would expect the smaller man to have that fight or even want the fight at all actually.

        That hypothetical Rigondeax example actually puts in perspective how ridiculous the idea of this fight is in more than anything in all honesty.
        That's why I said "smallish". Not quite small, but not even average when most guys go up 12lb+.

        I totally disagree with you on Rigo. If this guy is good enough to be p4p and The Man at 118 and Rigo can make 118, I wanna see that fight next.

        Remember Donaire was in his 4th weightclass, seems like you'd then heavily discount that win over the "midget"

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        • Even if he fought GGG it would be at 154 and people would cry about it being a weight drain. Makes no sense in them fighting whatsoever, GGG has more to prove and in my opinion so does Canelo.

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          • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
            That's why I said "smallish". Not quite small, but not even average when most guys go up 12lb+.

            I totally disagree with you on Rigo. If this guy is good enough to be p4p and The Man at 118 and Rigo can make 118, I wanna see that fight next.

            Remember Donaire was in his 4th weightclass, seems like you'd then heavily discount that win over the "midget"
            But as I've said in my previous posts that is not he same.

            118 is 4 lbs south of 122.

            154 is 6 lbs south of 160.

            The weight class below 118 is 4 lbs south.

            The weight class below 154 is 7 lbs south.

            Big difference in weight there.

            I've already broken down what would be similar.

            Ill state it again to make it easier and more clear;

            What would be similar would be a fighter who fights at 109 an is average sized for that weight, who selectively fights at 116 and has never weighed in more than 112, expecting to fight a guy who was never weighed less than 121 in he last 7 years.

            This situation is something that wouldn't and shouldn't be expected from the smaller fighter and absolutely nothing at all like the Donaire situation.

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            • Originally posted by Mr. Keni Styles View Post
              that's because you're a racist boxing fan who only loves black fighters and hate on non black fighters. Are you stephen a smith? GGG is the real deal and would/will crush sergio. LOL at you calling a 8 division, 4 lineal division champion, fighter of the decade, ATG, hall of fame boxer an exaggeration.

              You should change your name to J the Biased.
              Mikey Garcia isn't black, neither is Marquez, Lara, Martinez, Mora, Donaire, etc etc...I don't hate on any of those fighters so save that "he's a racist" argument for someone else you clown lmao.

              GGG is the real deal because he beat????????????????????

              I think Manny was/is a good fighter. But that's where it stops. To say he's an All Time Great is an exaggeration in my opinion. To say he's a 8 division champion when he's won titles at catchweights and paper belts is an exaggeration. To say he's the fighter of the decade is an exaggeration.

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              • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                But as I've said in my previous posts that is not he same.

                118 is 4 lbs south of 122.

                154 is 6 lbs south of 160.

                The weight class below 118 is 4 lbs south.

                The weight class below 154 is 7 lbs south.

                Big difference in weight there.

                I've already broken down what would be similar.

                Ill state it again to make it easier and more clear;

                What would be similar would be a fighter who fights at 109 an is average sized for that weight, who selectively fights at 116 and has never weighed in more than 112, expecting to fight a guy who was never weighed less than 121 in he last 7 years.

                This situation is something that wouldn't and shouldn't be expected from the smaller fighter and absolutely nothing at all like the Donaire situation.
                2 of Floyd's last 3 fights are at SWW, both for titles, one a unification, with everybody's "lineal" title at stake. He's been ranked top 2 in any SWW ranking for over a year. How's that not fair game for whoever can make the weight is beyond me.

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                • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                  2 of Floyd's last 3 fights are at SWW, both for titles, one a unification, with everybody's "lineal" title at stake. He's been ranked top 2 in any SWW ranking for over a year. How's that not fair game for whoever can make the weight is beyond me.
                  Well actually he's only fought at Jr MW once in the last 6 years in which he weighed 151. His next fight hasn't happened yet that still only twice in the last 6 years.

                  The other fighter on the other hand has been as high as 161 and no lower than 159 for the past 7 years.

                  I didn't say it's not fair (if he can make the weight) I said it shouldn't be expected (if he doesn't make the drastic move down in weight from the weight he's been at for the last 7 years)

                  Why that would be expected of a fighter is beyond me and something that frankly wouldn't be expected in any situation.

                  Certainly not the terrible example you provided either.

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                  • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    Well actually he's only fought at Jr MW once in the last 6 years in which he weighed 151. His next fight hasn't happened yet that still only twice in the last 6 years.

                    The other fighter on the other hand has been as high as 161 and no lower than 159 for the past 7 years.

                    I didn't say it's not fair (if he can make the weight) I said it shouldn't be expected (if he doesn't make the drastic move down in weight from the weight he's been at for the last 7 years)

                    Why that would be expected of a fighter is beyond me and something that frankly wouldn't be expected in any situation.

                    Certainly not the terrible example you provided either.
                    The Rigo example? I'm pretty sure most posters would be with me, with or without the Floyd subtext.

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                    • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                      The Rigo example? I'm pretty sure most posters would be with me, with or without the Floyd subtext.
                      Yes, the Rigondeaux example.

                      Expecting a fighter who fights at 109, fights selectively at 116 and has never weighed in more than 112 to fight a fighter who has been at 122 and no lower than 121 for the last 7 years is something that shouldn't be expecting or demanded on any fighter.

                      Unless that fighter were to move down 6 lbs after 7 years to 116. It shouldn't be, and wouldn't be. It really is that simple.

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