Comments Thread For: No Real Controversy in Dereck Chisora’s Knockout Win

[Jam Jars]

Wait i thought the wave ends it. So now its the 10

So why didnt he say 10 in the scott fight but said 10 in the pulev fight? It doesnt make sense at all. He would have been up, thats a lot to gain. He had absolutely no time from 9 to the wave, none at all, which is why he was counted out at 9. THe ref clearly stop it after 9. If he did when he did in the pulev fight he would have been up

Whatever come after 9 wave/10 ends the fight. Is that simple enough for you? The wave after 9 = 10, a wave after 10 = nothing.

[Jam Jars]

The answer is no, they don't

It amazing how understanding rules is so hard when you're nuthugging

Count to 10>wave is over. Thats the rule in the book

Oh jeez.

A wave after 10 means nothing at all, it's irrelevant the fight ended as soon as the ref reaches 10.

[Russian Crushin]

Oh jeez.

A wave after 10 means nothing at all, it's irrelevant the fight ended as soon as the ref reaches 10.

It doesnt, but the 10 means something. So does the time from 9 to 10, which is 1 sec, 1 sec which scott didnt get. Simple

[Russian Crushin]

Whatever come after 9 wave/10 ends the fight. Is that simple enough for you? The wave after 9 = 10, a wave after 10 = nothing.

There should be 1 second from 9 to the wave, but there isnt since he waves immediately, which is why it makes no sense and the ref should have just said 10. He didnt because he stopped the fight at 9

[MarcianoFan]

Oh jeez.

A wave after 10 means nothing at all, it's irrelevant the fight ended as soon as the ref reaches 10.

But the physical act of waving takes time. If a wave at 10 properly ends the fight, it logically must mean one of two things:
1) the decision was actually made before 10, or else the ref could not have gotten his arms up promptly at 10.

2) The wave at 10 was delayed so as to make sure the fighter didn't rise in time, in which case it's really a "silent 10" and wave rather than a true "wave at 10."

[Jam Jars]

It doesnt, but the 10 means something. So does the time from 9 to 10, which is 1 sec, 1 sec which scott didnt get. Simple

Oh ffs, forget the wave after 10 in the WBO rules it's irrelevant. The 10 is what matters, it signals the end of the fight. The ref in the Chisora fight waved instead of saying 10, Scott would have gained nothing if the ref said 10 instead of waving.

[MarcianoFan]

Oh ffs, forget the wave after 10 in the WBO rules it's irrelevant. The 10 is what matters, it signals the end of the fight. The ref in the Chisora fight waved instead of saying 10, Scott would have gained nothing if the ref said 10 instead of waving.

False. If the ref had said 10 instead of waving, he would have noticed that Scott was up before 10, and thus not waved, and thus not ended the fight. That is, unless he was determined to stop it regardless of the rules.

[Russian Crushin]

Oh ffs, forget the wave after 10 in the WBO rules it's irrelevant. The 10 is what matters, it signals the end of the fight. The ref in the Chisora fight waved instead of saying 10, Scott would have gained nothing if the ref said 10 instead of waving.

Ok the 10 matters. Why didnt he count to 10?

Yes, he would have had the 1 second he wasnt given when he waved the fight at 9. WHeres the second between 9 and the wave? Well there isnt one thats where

[Jam Jars]

False. If the ref had said 10 instead of waving, he would have noticed that Scott was up before 10, and thus not waved, and thus not ended the fight. That is, unless he was determined to stop it regardless of the rules.

If he said 10 the fight would still be over, the fight ends on 10. He signaled 10 with a wave instead of saying it. The issue is with the speed of the count.

[Jam Jars]

Ok the 10 matters. Why didnt he count to 10?

Yes, he would have had the 1 second he wasnt given when he waved the fight at 9. WHeres the second between 9 and the wave? Well there isnt one thats where

There's no rules on how fast a ref should count. The issue is how fast he got to 10 not how he signaled it.