Comments Thread For: No Real Controversy in Dereck Chisora’s Knockout Win

[BennyST]

No bias here, I’m afraid. I’ve previously been accused of being pro-black America fighters as well as pro and anti-Khan, so I’m splitting the difference and claiming objectivity!

The same type of count was applied in the Gans fight mentioned above, plus many others from the boxing’s earlier age, Nigel Benn’s loss to Michael Watson, Danny Williams Vs Scott Gammer and Brian Magee against Rudy Markussen (just to add a bit of continental flavour) although the count seemed slow in that fight. Derry Mathews and Tony Oakey also rose at nine and were counted out, but both said the count was wrong or, in Oakey’s case, it was a split-second misjudgement.

Scott should have been up and ready by eight, just to eliminate any doubt. It was rank inexperience or the corner were a second behind the count, which has happened before in boxing.

They were all hurt numerous times and ready to go. Scott was nodding to the ref, clearly unhurt. Very different situations.

[BennyST]

Possibly - if you remember the Haye vs Chisora fight, Chisora got up after the second knockdown before the 10 count was over but the ref waved the fight off anyway. It does happen all the time in boxing and has happened to Chisora himself in the only fight he was ever knocked down.

Chisora was knocked down twice, both with brutal shots that hurt him very badly, the last one of which caught him flush and momentarily put him completely out of his senses and he was clearly still out of it despite getting up by ten.

Scott was fine from the moment he hit the canvas and was telling the ref he was ok while looking at him clear eyed.

It was a bull**** mistake by a bad ref. No need to defend it.

[ma51f]

Nonsense...

It was 9;- ref was clearly paid off

[Weebler I]

The vast majority of press scorers had Malik Scott ahead so they must all have been duped by missed jabs.

The vast majority of the press scorers listed are from the US.

Additionally, are those the scores going into the 6th? because most of them only have Scott a point up, a 10-8 round puts Chisora ahead on their cards.

In any case I only bring it up because you suggested that they should have gone to a technical decision. If they had done that it looks like Scott was ahead on most cards and he would have won.

Rightly or wrongly (and I believe rightly) Scott wouldn't have been ahead on the cards over here. He needed to do better than he was to take a decision in his opponent's hometown, jabbing air and hitting gloves doesn't cut it. He got his eye lumped up, was being outworked and got dropped. He was losing the fight imo.

[ShoulderRoll]

The vast majority of the press scorers listed are from the US.

And? Are you suggesting that all these press people are biased and that none of them can judge a fight objectively?

The scores are for all rounds that were completed prior to the stoppage.

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this the first and this will be the ONLY comment I make regarding this fight or whatever you wanna call it....for some reason Malik came to lay down....thats all I gotta say!!!....the ref was like a actor who missed his line and thats why we got THAT ending.....of course I was pulling for Malik...like duh, but I rock with Del Boy heavy as well...it was a win win for me as a fan but they could've at least made it look like a REAL fight...it is what it is!!

I heard Chisora is suppose to fight that Pulev dude....that should be a good fight....the HW division is heating up since the K2 bros are getting older which means their strangle hold on the division might be slowly coming to a end....nothing is forever!!

[Weebler I]

And? Are you suggesting that all these press people are biased and that none of them can judge a fight objectively?

When it comes to a US fighter fighting in the UK I would imagine a fair amount of bias sets in, you only have to read Lyle's piece (as it would vice versa, I'm not claiming a lack of bias on the UK side).

The scores are for all rounds that were completed prior to the stoppage.

Then I don't think it would have been fair to hand Scott the TD, and I don't think he would have been up on the cards here anyway (regardless of US press scoring).

[ShoulderRoll]

A lot of website scorers had Scott in the lead too. Usually when there is so much consensus that tells you which way the fight was going.

But I'm waiting to see if anyone posts the official scorecards. Can't seem to find them so far.

[Weebler I]

A lot of website scorers had Scott in the lead too. Usually when there is so much consensus that tells you which way the fight was going.

There was a poll on ESB as to who would have won the fight if it had continued, last I looked it was 40-5 in favour of Chisora so yeah, there was a consensus on which way the fight was going which is why I feel it would have been unfair to hand Scott the fight on a TD.

But I'm waiting to see if anyone posts the official scorecards. Can't seem to find them so far.

I don't think they have been released.

[ShoulderRoll]

There was a poll on ESB as to who would have won the fight if it had continued,

Yeah, but I was talking about the scoring prior to the "incident."

But.....if the fight had been allowed to go on I do agree Chisora was in the driver's seat. Still Malik deserved the chance to come back from the knockdown. Since he got up before 10.