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  • malcolm
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    #181
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    JMM was paid a huge amount for complying. I cant believe you think its fair when one fighter fail to live up to the contracted weight.

    Floyd couldnt drop even two measly lbs. But hey Floyd is a small WW. LMAO.
    Floyd came out of retirement for that fight. Plus JMM didn't get drained. Floyd had a whopping two pound advantage on him. Stop crying.

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      #182
      Originally posted by malcolm
      Floyd came out of retirement for that fight. Plus JMM didn't get drained. Floyd had a whopping two pound advantage on him. Stop crying.
      The same 2 pound advantage he has taken from Canelo. Funny, isn't it?

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        #183
        Originally posted by malcolm
        Exactly.

        HBO is mad that Floyd jumped ship. They are hoping to build GGG into a cash cow like Money May was for them.

        GGG will never fight Andre Ward. He'd suck down to 147 to fight Broner before he even thinks about SOG.
        I'm not even mad about HBO promoting GGG. They should. His combination of power and amatur pedigree make him a real player.

        But fight game made it clear the were only interested in taking away from floyd canelo. (again, I understand that.)

        But if GGG is the next big thing there are 2 ways to get there quickly-

        1. end floyds unbeaten streak
        2. end Ward's unbeaten streak

        If floyd was on HBO there is no way in hell they'd bring up a floyd GGG fight.

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          #184
          Originally posted by T18Z
          No, we are not quiet. I would enjoy that fight, and it appears Gennady and his team would too. They said they are ready to fight him, however first Gennady is making him name more respected within the middleweight, and once he is a more household name he will attempt a big money shot at 154 fighters. After that he intends to eventually move to 168 a few years down the line.

          Macklin was a good opponent with great past fights, especially how he handled Sergio and Felix. Do not compare fighters on how they react to Gennady, they fight 'scared' because they are smart, he hits hard, you know that right?
          Macklin is a bum. He doesn't punch hard. He's not fast. His boxing acumen is low.

          Fighters like him and proksa are a dime a dozen.

          Let GGG dominate Chavez Jr or Abraham the way he did bum Macklin. Then he will get props.

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            #185
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            Bat i'm gonna treat you just like did T18Z-you are both real fans so I'm asking you to stop debating a ridiculous premise posted during an argument with a wack job and lets really discuss.

            HBO wont let a fighter they developed fight on showtime and potentially lose. they wont air a floyd fight now. the fight isn't big enough to warrant cross network promotion llike lennox tyson. GGG isn't the best MW in the world nor is he the lineal champion. WHile GGG is super hot right now-showtime has Matthysse who is equally as hot for the same reasons so an "in house" fight makes more sense.

            So its politics and economics far ahead of weight. GGG mentioning a floyd fight helps get his name out there. HBO's corporate partners (espn, SI) each have had their boxing guy (rafael, mannix) mention floyd would never take the fight because GGG puches soo hard and is sooo strong-which makes GGG seem even bigger.

            Is GGG at 154 too big to fight floyd? No. Is ggg's size/weight the reason the fight won't take place. No.
            So you are saying that Floyd wouldn't mind fighting GGG, but network politics prohibits it. That's ok with me; Floyd wants it, but Will not leave Showtime for it.



            Let's talk Matthysse then. You claim Floyd is a small WW. Dó you think Floyd will fight Matthysse and at what weight? Surely a CW would be fair right?

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              #186
              Originally posted by T18Z
              The same 2 pound advantage he has taken from Canelo. Funny, isn't it?
              All these guys could make it easy by fighting Floyd at 147.

              Period.

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                #187
                Originally posted by malcolm
                Floyd came out of retirement for that fight. Plus JMM didn't get drained. Floyd had a whopping two pound advantage on him. Stop crying.
                Two lbs? Like Canelo? .

                JMM looked like the Pillsbury doughboy. Floyd, who you claim is a small WW, couldn't even drop 2 lbs.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  So you are saying that Floyd wouldn't mind fighting GGG, but network politics prohibits it. That's ok with me; Floyd wants it, but Will not leave Showtime for it.



                  Let's talk Matthysse then. You claim Floyd is a small WW. Dó you think Floyd will fight Matthysse and at what weight? Surely a CW would be fair right?
                  Again if Matthyse wants it he can come to 147. Period.

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    So you are saying that Floyd wouldn't mind fighting GGG, but network politics prohibits it. That's ok with me; Floyd wants it, but Will not leave Showtime for it.



                    Let's talk Matthysse then. You claim Floyd is a small WW. Dó you think Floyd will fight Matthysse and at what weight? Surely a CW would be fair right?
                    I'm not saying its just politics there are other reasons too. Its like you keep leaving out things and are trying to zero in on if floyd wants to fight ggg or not. why would floyd be thinking about fighting a MW who isn't the best in the world or the lineal champion?

                    I have never said floyd was a small ww. please don't lie or make things up.

                    He will probably fight matts at 147 if he beats garcia. I don't think there will be a cw.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                      Two lbs? Like Canelo? .

                      JMM looked like the Pillsbury doughboy. Floyd, who you claim is a small WW, couldn't even drop 2 lbs.
                      Did May call out JMM?

                      If you're calling ppl out then be ready to fight them in their division.

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