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  • brick wall
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    #31
    it makes sense to me. if the fighters involve want to have random testing it should still be under the authority of the commissions as that is their mandate. and in case the requested testing is something the commission are not capable of doing, they can outsource it. they'll be the only ones who can have negotiation with outside testing agencies and no one else.

    you can say whatever you want about commissions being corrupt and all but it's a bigger joke if fighters or promoters are directly involve with drug testing. there's no room for self-regulation in any sports. fighters and promoters should be out of anything that could influence the outcome of the fight like choosing the refs and judges and yes drug testing too. commissions can outsource drug testing and that's well and good for me.

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    • Weebler I
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      #32
      Originally posted by brick wall
      it makes sense to me. if the fighters involve want to have random testing it should still be under the authority of the commissions as that is their mandate. and in case the requested testing is something the commission are not capable of doing, they can outsource it. they'll be the only ones who can have negotiation with outside testing agencies and no one else.

      you can say whatever you want about commissions being corrupt and all but it's a bigger joke if fighters or promoters are directly involve with drug testing. there's no room for self-regulation in any sports. fighters and promoters should be out of anything that could influence the outcome of the fight like choosing the refs and judges and yes drug testing too. commissions can outsource drug testing and that's well and good for me.
      Except they're not. USADA and VADA are independent bodies.

      Originally posted by Flash13
      I've learned from my experiences as a boxing fan never to trust arum, more lies come out of his mouth than the truth. If I was bradley I would say no vada = no fight.
      Pretty much. It's his health and livelihood on the line.
      Last edited by Weebler I; 06-21-2013, 11:19 AM.

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      • Flash13
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        #33
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        It's a fact that Memo does not want VADA. He's on record saying that. It's really just because it's the agency of choice of his enemy. You must not be aware that Conte and Memo go at it almost daily. Arguing back and forth about VADA and USADA, the fighters getting tested or not, etc.

        He regretted turning down that Peterson fight by the way. Because after that, he ended up being forced to take a long lay off. He wrongly assumed that he could get something better. Even Arum thought he was nuts.
        My point is why would you go with an agency a KNOWN ped chemist is comfortable with. The whole point is to make him uncomfortable about passing these tests... I mean seriously memo doesnt want it? Well make sure to give him the test he wants... Also yes turning down 2.3 mill for pederson was beyond ******.
        Last edited by Flash13; 06-21-2013, 11:26 AM.

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        • brick wall
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          #34
          Originally posted by The Weebler II
          Except they're not. USADA and VADA are independent bodies.

          you totally missed my point...either you replied without reading my post or you didn't comprehend what you just read.

          what would you rather have? fighters or promoters hiring directly the services of USADA or VADA or the commission doing that for the fighters?

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          • Fetta
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            #35
            Originally posted by Marvellous1
            Wow! Times have changed! I remember when taking taking such a stance was immediately interpreted as ducking.........
            Bingo! Im all for testing and HAVE ALWAYS BEEN so in this case im just letting the hypocrites have fun.

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            • Flash13
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              #36
              Originally posted by brick wall
              you totally missed my point...either you replied without reading my post or you didn't comprehend what you just read.

              what would you rather have? fighters or promoters hiring directly the services of USADA or VADA or the commission doing that for the fighters?
              Well obviously if the comission would, but are you really believing what arum has to say? Who knows what "extra" tests they are going to perform.... It has arums bs written all over it.

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              • brick wall
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                #37
                Originally posted by Flash13
                Well obviously if the comission would, but are you really believing what arum has to say? Who knows what "extra" tests they are going to perform.... It has arums bs written all over it.

                my post has nothing to do with arum's reputation. i'm talking about what's the better thing to do.

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                • HeroBando
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Flash13
                  Well obviously if the comission would, but are you really believing what arum has to say? Who knows what "extra" tests they are going to perform.... It has arums bs written all over it.
                  Who knows what tests the other guys perform, see Paulie, DeMarco, Winky...

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                  • WESS
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                    #39
                    Good ol bob ****ing Arum. Lol such irony. At least everyone sees how much of a ducking scam it was for bob and pacs disgraced run from them blood tests.

                    Lol damn, have the tables turned on that chump. The media jumped right off that hype train and those cowardly excuses that had been disgracefully given in such a cowardly manner.

                    Time to forgive and FORGET. These two are going to throw down.

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                    • turnedup
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                      #40
                      GBP and Maywather promotions pay attention...this is how drug testing should be done. The results should go to a third party commission and not the damned promoter..it should not be up to the promoter to decide whether to disclose the results, ask for retesting, or even be able to have the opportunity to have the test results go away.

                      I'm sorry but the way testing has been done is bullshhhh hall of famer Winky Wright was the first one to put the GBP system on blast...rightfully so. Good for Arum and Top Rank..full f'ing disclosure.

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