Would a healthy Haye beat Wlad

[Arsene Knows]

We've answered the OPs Q. That's the topic: 'Would a healthy Haye beat Wladimir'. No, he wouldn't.

So you believe he wasn't healthy in the first fight. Ok cool, you agree with Wladimir then.

[yoz]

So you believe he wasn't healthy in the first fight. Ok cool, you agree with Wladimir then.

LOL, you're such a troll, Dirk/Arsene Is God.

I remember, when you were posting as DirkDiggler, you said Haye was going to walk across the ring and break Wladimir's 'glass jaw'. You bought into the Haye's trash talk. You support a fraud with a pathetic HW resume, who is more interested in his bank balance than entertaining his fans/creating a legacy.

The 'saviour' of the HW division has avoided/ran from almost every threat. I hope Fury somehow finishes him off.

[Arsene Knows]

Picked Wladimir by KO actually. Was surprised he didn't deliver against a "handicapped" (his words) Haye.

I criticised Haye heavily in a thread from the other day regarding the Chisora fight. In fact, you were posting in it and agreeing with me

Typical sycophantic Klitscko fan.

[yoz]

Picked Wladimir by KO actually. Was surprised he didn't deliver against a "handicapped" (his words) Haye.

I criticised Haye heavily in a thread from the other day regarding the Chisora fight. In fact, you were posting in it and agreeing with me

Typical sycophantic Klitscko fan.

Don't lie - you had Haye by brutal KO. You were one of his most vocal supporters going into the Wladimir fight.

You've seen sense, finally. This is welcome news.

[yoz]

Dirk concedes. Huzzah!

[Cuban Linx]

LOL, you're such a troll, Dirk/Arsene Is God.

I remember, when you were posting as DirkDiggler, you said Haye was going to walk across the ring and break Wladimir's 'glass jaw'. You bought into the Haye's trash talk. You support a fraud with a pathetic HW resume, who is more interested in his bank balance than entertaining his fans/creating a legacy.

The 'saviour' of the HW division has avoided/ran from almost every threat. I hope Fury somehow finishes him off.

Many foolish people did.

The truth is we always get ****** into believing the hype when you hear it so often. It's just like when everyone was saying Donaire is p4p top 3 in the world, it was just because they wanted him to be the best not because he really was and that was proven.

People could not look past the trash talk. They just wanted Haye to be the champ so badly, that they forget all of his limitations. The smart people know that to beat Wlad you need to get inside, and that's something Haye simply cannot do.

[marvelousmatt]

I personally don't think any version of Haye beats prime Wlad. He just couldn't do enough in the first fight. I would still like to see the sequel for some reason, even though the first was a stinker. They both seemed too afraid of engaging with each other, so Wlad won the fight with his jab.

The best chance Haye has of a win, is to go gung-ho and hope he catches Wlad before he gets caught himself. He needs to be a lot more agressive, and use his reach. If i'm not mistaken I think Haye actually has a longer reach than Wlad, but he stays too far away to use it. Wrong tactics to use, because Wlad is more mobile than you would think. And once you get caught by that right hand once, you don't want to get caught again. Vitali is a better fit for Haye.

One thing I do like though, is most of the nuthuggers come out with crap like: "Haye would get KO'd in 3 rounds in a rematch" or "He didn't get KOd because he was running around like a headless chicken" - Trying to make out Wlad is some kind of stalking beast in the GGG mould. He didn't even KO Mormeck/Pianeta in 3 rounds! A lot of people are hating on Haye and the only reason they can find for him not getting KOd was because he was running, when in fact he was on the ropes with his hands by his side.

Wladimir beat him. He's the better fighter. But he didn't exactly go toe-to-toe himself.

Vlad has a bad habit of carrying bums(Haye is certainly no bum,other dudes like Mo-Mo and Pianetta). He was too cautious in the Haye fight and should have KTFO'd Haye early.It was really an easy fight for him as Haye did very little with his "big toe" puzzy ****e. I have had way worse injuries sparring than a swollen toe.Haye was scared and Vlad was way too cautious,period.

[FLYBOY]

No, I used to be a Haye fan and he cannot beat Wladimir.

If he had a pair of balls and fought like a brawler against Wladimir, then yes, he would beat Wladimir. But he doesn't so he can't beat Wladimir.

[JAB5239]

Vlad has a bad habit of carrying bums(Haye is certainly no bum,other dudes like Mo-Mo and Pianetta). He was too cautious in the Haye fight and should have KTFO'd Haye early.It was really an easy fight for him as Haye did very little with his "big toe" puzzy ****e. I have had way worse injuries sparring than a swollen toe.Haye was scared and Vlad was way too cautious,period.

I see you're from Mass. Where do you train at Matt? I use to fight out of Rhode Island and fought and sparred in Mass a few times.

[LacedUp]

I agree. He wasn't gassing. He threw nothing for most of the fight, so he should have had plenty in the tank.

-Anyone who's ever thrown a punch at a bag in the gym, will tell you that power punches take more out of you than jabs.