Calzaghe vs Ward: Who had the tougher competition?

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  • Gudfella
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    #81
    tito nd lacy were more shot than Jones was...that's like watching holyfield beat botha...nd considering botha a near prime victory...not the case


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    • the secret
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      #82
      Originally posted by lparm
      The Kessler that Joe fought and beat is far better than the one Ward beat.

      Lacy was better than Abraham.

      Near prime Eubank that Joe beat was far better than Froch.

      Yeah I'm not seeing how Wards best wins are better than Joe's at 168.

      Also 2006 Bika > 2010 Bika that Ward couldn't put a dent in.
      Listen up before your bias takes over and hear me out

      Pot-meet-kettle!

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      • PunchesNbuncheS
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        #83
        43 to 11 and the delusional fanboy still continues to bury himself with some of the dumbest comments I've ever heard. I mean c'mon man, It's 43 to 11. Aren't you embarrassed to even ask such nonsense?

        Poor guy. You have to be , you HAVE TO BE TROLLING.

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        • lparm
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          #84
          Originally posted by PunchesNbuncheS
          43 to 11 and the delusional fanboy still continues to bury himself with some of the dumbest comments I've ever heard. I mean c'mon man, It's 43 to 11. Aren't you embarrassed to even ask such nonsense?

          Poor guy. You have to be , you HAVE TO BE TROLLING.
          Joe Calzaghe will sleep at night knowing his legacy is ATG at 168 no matter how many ward fanboi's vote for their hero.

          Ward could be a legend too but he's not there yet and right now the level of competition is second rate. He needs to move up and dominate near prime superstars like Joe did and not weight drained fighters or small middleweights.

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          • Riley Freeman
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            #85
            Ward by landslide.

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            • dc3383
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              #86
              Andre Ward easily

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              • Suckmedry
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                #87
                Originally posted by lparm
                That's going too far brah but I feel the love for Joe.

                Hopkins was past his prime but is still good enough to beat 99% of any 175lber even today.

                RJJ was near prime and Joe outclassed him.

                Kessler was 100% prime when Joe made him look like a punk and took his soul.
                Kill yourself.

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                • lparm
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by dc3383
                  Andre Ward easily
                  Based on what?

                  Saying "oh it's ward 100%" is very unclear because you're leaving out the why it's ward in your opinion.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Arsene Knows
                    Calzaghe was an up and comer. His opposition wasn't supposed to be that great.

                    Eubank was the kind of fighter that would often fight down or up to the level of his opponent. After the Benn fight, he put in a very good performance away from home against Rocchigiani but then after that he was poor against Ray Close and Dan Schommer but then great against Wharton.

                    He fought on terms with Collins before Calzaghe and then Thompson at Cruiserweight after.
                    Of course but that's the only reason it was a "step up".

                    I wouldn't say he looked great at all against Wharton. Infact I thought he looked unimpressive if anything.

                    He had more bad performances than good leading up to that fight and good losing efforts to Collins and Thompson don't really cut it.

                    The fact remains he was unranked at 168, looked lack luster over and over leading up to the fight and was certainly well passed his prime and had 1 foot out the door already.

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                    • Sugar Adam Ali
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                      #90
                      Ward has fought the better competition, and he did it in a string of fights back-to-back...

                      Calzaghe def is an ATG at 168 but he didnt fight the brutal schedule that ward has.....

                      I do think though that Calzaghe would have beat ward... His hand speed and activity would be too much for ward,, it would be close and probably look alot like joe-hopkins fight

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