Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Canelo at 152-Pounds, Four Titles at Stake

[HeroBando]

I dont think anyone is completely ok with it. But pretending it's going to make any difference to the fight is like Floyd fans pretending it made any difference to the Cotto/Pac fight.

It didn't, and it wont for this either.

The only real issue in this is for some pathetic superiority motive to pretend Pac is more legit and Floyd is his usual fake self. It's just typical politics. In other words, bull****.

The fact that he's taking on Canelo at all is greater than anything Pac has done, arguably since Barrera 1 or moving up to fight Cotto, at a catchweight, or Bradley, at seven pounds higher than Bradley fought at.

Unless people forget a few important facts here: All of Pac's greatest wins in nearly the last decade and the stuff that made his legacy as an ATG has come at catchweights or weights that people hadn't fought at comfortably, ever, or in years.

Oscar: hadn't fought at 147 in nearly a decade.
Marquez: first (ie. their 3rd fight) fought at a catchtweight, then fought at a weight he'd only fought at once and lost horribly, then making him come up to the full division limit because of it.
Cotto: fought at a catchweight for Cotto's title two pounds under the limit.
Morales: wanted to fight above 130 as he'd been struggling to make the limit and said it would have too much of an effect on him.
Bradley: made Bradley come up 7 pounds to fight him at 147, despite making Cotto come down 2 pounds to 145 to fight him for the same title, or making Marquez come up 9 and 12 respectively.
Margarito: Pac winning a 154 pound title at 150, against an untitled, should-have-been-unranked-Margarito coming down to a weight he clearly couldn't make healthily anymore and obviously couldn't fight at.

Rios; Pac's latest fight: making Rios jump up another 7 pounds, despite only just moving up to 140 two fights ago. No one is saying anything about this at all, let alone a million page thread full of nothing but hate and accusations.

Come on guys! Get over yourselves. You argued black and blue saying it was only fair then, all of you, now that someone you hate is doing it for only the second time, you're acting as if the world is ending despite your hero having done it constantly.

Any Floyd fan thinking it is completely ok is idiotic, though only from a political standpoint because the weight isnt going to be an issue at all, but any Pac fan arguing against it is even worse and the most hypocritical POS, fake, ******ed ****er going around. The weight itself isn't the issue. It's purely the politics behind it.

It's what Pac made a career of doing in the last decade, so get the **** over it real quick like. It's no different than Pac/Cotto and no one pretends that was anything other than what it ended up as.

Also, unless you forgot, Canelo has actually fought under and around 152 a lot recently so 152 is not only fine, but is nothing new at all.

He fought Baldomir at 150, Rhodes at 153, Hatton at 151, N'Dou at 149, Trout at 153.5, Jose Cotto at 150, Gomez at 153.5 and more.

In fact, Alvarez's average since 2010 or so is probably at or under 152. Cotto's wasn't. Let it go people. It's the biggest fight in boxing right now, don't ruin with unjustified rubbish, especially when it's actually highly hypocritical. He was fighting as a welterweight up to 2010, and has consistently weighed in under 154 since then often fighting under 152, anywhere between 149 and 153.5 since then.

152 is no problem at all.

Rios was just 160 for a JWW fight, he's probably relieved he doesn't have to make 140. You think 147 favors Pac?

The rest is just mental gymnastics, not even worth bothering with. Canelo will be at least as affected by the CW as Cotto and Marg were. But keep in mind both of those were when Pac was moving up. Floyd is a 2x a current SWW champ. This devalues his belt. They're unifying 4 belts including the lineal one. So we may have a lineal champ who needs catchweights for his defenses.

[TheOliverBrand]

catch weight king Floyd mayweather


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Fighting at a catchweight was originally Canelo's idea. He did NOT have to come to that agreement if he felt uncomfortable. He signed his name on the contract. Now, he's the one who has to deal with that decision.

Prediction: Mayweather by stoppage

[junior gong]

i dont even know why you still post. grasping desperately at straws for reasons to dislike a fighter who obviously captivates you as a person and as a man since you have basically used up the last 2 years of your life obsessing over him. He fought guerrero and is now taking on Canelo, both instanes of bigger, pressure fighters who bring it. All the coward talk, all the focus on floyds fans etc, none of that can take away from the fact that you dont have much to hang onto anymore.

I find your existence on this board pathetic in every way. Look at what you have been reduced to "rehydratards"

come on. give it up.

Come on schnuffty, if you are going to try and deflect, at least try and not sound so butthurt. Did rehydration become a huge factor for you when day before weigh ins were introduced or is it..you know..a more recent thing?

And how do ya like them catchweights? 2lbs can make a huge amount of difference, right? And lol at RG being "bigger"! yeh course he was...2 fights removed from being a 135lber...you couldnt make this up!

[BennyST]

Rios was just 160 for a JWW fight, he's probably relieved he doesn't have to make 140. You think 147 favors Pac?

The rest is just mental gymnastics, not even worth bothering with. Canelo will be at least as affected by the CW as Cotto and Marg were. But keep in mind both of those were when Pac was moving up. Floyd is a 2x a current SWW champ. This devalues his belt. They're unifying 4 belts including the lineal one. So we may have a lineal champ who needs catchweights for his defenses.

How typically inane of you. Why not just say what you mean?

"Pac's catchweights favoured his opponents, while Mayweather is just a cheat"

[Vasyl’s dad]

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Originally Posted by CatchweightKing

catch weight king Floyd mayweather


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Fighting at a catchweight was originally Canelo's idea. He did NOT have to come to that agreement if he felt uncomfortable. He signed his name on the contract. Now, he's the one who has to deal with that decision.

Prediction: Mayweather by stoppage

do you think I really care? I'm here to laugh at all the Floyd stans who said Manny's victory over Cotto is tainted. based in their logic, canelo winds up undefeated no matter the outcome of the fight. just another day at the office watching these bums drown themselves in hypocrisy.



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[Kagami Taiga]

Rios was just 160 for a JWW fight, he's probably relieved he doesn't have to make 140. You think 147 favors Pac?

The rest is just mental gymnastics, not even worth bothering with. Canelo will be at least as affected by the CW as Cotto and Marg were. But keep in mind both of those were when Pac was moving up. Floyd is a 2x a current SWW champ. This devalues his belt. They're unifying 4 belts including the lineal one. So we may have a lineal champ who needs catchweights for his defenses.

lol, u do the same mental gymnastics in the opposite direction but u think your opinion is better? smh. whats wrong with ppl on this site?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

How typically inane of you. Why not just say what you mean?

"Pac's catchweights favoured his opponents, while Mayweather is just a cheat"

pacquiao never fought marquez at a catch weight wtf are you talking about?

and he does make a good point with brandon rios, if anything the 147lbs is an advantage to rios not a disadvantage.

rios squeezes to 140lbs despite rehydrating well over 150lbs to take advantage of smaller guys.

[Kagami Taiga]

pacquiao never fought marquez at a catch weight wtf are you talking about?

and he does make a good point with brandon rios, if anything the 147lbs is an advantage to rios not a disadvantage.

rios squeezes to 140lbs despite rehydrating well over 150lbs to take advantage of smaller guys.

lol, yes he did.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

lol, yes he did.

144lbs forgot about that. that was for marquez advantage not pacquiao.

[HeroBando]

How typically inane of you. Why not just say what you mean?

"Pac's catchweights favoured his opponents, while Mayweather is just a cheat"

That;'s fine, I don't need to write a novel trying to make my guy look better. Remember, 6 divisional belts with no catchweight, that's a record. Floyd could only muster 4 before he had to bring down his opponent, same as Marquez. And Pac never asked a divisional opponent for a CW. These CWs are highly unusual, you should think about reasons why.

So how do you feel about the lineal belt being decided at a CW?