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  • Seems its the hypocrisy and not the catchweight thats the issue in this thread. Makes sense, you can't run an argument for years about Pacquiao Vs Cotto then change your views overnight just because of the weight agreement in this fight. If your against catchweights fine..but be consistent. Criticize it in this fight also, if you've criticized in the past.

    If your for/against something thats fine, don't just change your mind in a split-second based on your your 'favorite' fighters most recent actions or people with correctly have a laugh at your expense.
    I mean, have your own opinion..you don't have to always just blindly follow a certain fighter's views like sheep just because you'r a fan.
    Last edited by Chrismart; 05-30-2013, 12:50 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Boxing Bob View Post
      I also think 154 should be honored. Both Floyd and Canelo weigh in 1 hour before the fight at 154 lbs or less. Neither fighter would have a weight advantage. What do you Floyd haters think.


      Now that would be a novel idea. The only problem being that Canelo rehydrates to a huge weight and couldn't weigh in at 154 at fight time if he had to. Weighing in from 147-154 a day before and having well over 24 to rehydrate is no problem whatsoever these days, as most do it, and he often does rehydrate up to 165-170, but right at fight time? Different story entirely.

      Few fighters today would fight at the division they weigh in at if that was still the rule. It's like pretending Pac would have been fighting great as a featherweight 50 years ago like he did against Barrera, Marquez etc...the only problem being he couldn't weigh in as a welterweight...kind of a 'big' problem.

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      • Floyd "I donīt want best version of Canelo" Mayweather


        Now Canelo instead of throwing 5 punches per round, is gonna throw 2. Canīt defeat a defensive fighter backed up by judges with that.
        Last edited by Phantomas; 05-30-2013, 12:54 PM.

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        • Hopeful Floyd is able to continue his reign.

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          • Originally posted by BennyST View Post
            I dont think anyone is completely ok with it. But pretending it's going to make any difference to the fight is like Floyd fans pretending it made any difference to the Cotto/Pac fight.

            It didn't, and it wont for this either.

            The only real issue in this is for some pathetic superiority motive to pretend Pac is more legit and Floyd is his usual fake self. It's just typical politics. In other words, bull****.

            The fact that he's taking on Canelo at all is greater than anything Pac has done, arguably since Barrera 1 or moving up to fight Cotto, at a catchweight, or Bradley, at seven pounds higher than Bradley fought at.

            Unless people forget a few important facts here: All of Pac's greatest wins in nearly the last decade and the stuff that made his legacy as an ATG has come at catchweights or weights that people hadn't fought at comfortably, ever, or in years.

            Oscar: hadn't fought at 147 in nearly a decade.
            Marquez: first (ie. their 3rd fight) fought at a catchtweight, then fought at a weight he'd only fought at once and lost horribly, then making him come up to the full division limit because of it.
            Cotto: fought at a catchweight for Cotto's title two pounds under the limit.
            Morales: wanted to fight above 130 as he'd been struggling to make the limit and said it would have too much of an effect on him.
            Bradley: made Bradley come up 7 pounds to fight him at 147, despite making Cotto come down 2 pounds to 145 to fight him for the same title, or making Marquez come up 9 and 12 respectively.
            Margarito: Pac winning a 154 pound title at 150, against an untitled, should-have-been-unranked-Margarito coming down to a weight he clearly couldn't make healthily anymore and obviously couldn't fight at.

            Rios; Pac's latest fight: making Rios jump up another 7 pounds, despite only just moving up to 140 two fights ago. No one is saying anything about this at all, let alone a million page thread full of nothing but hate and accusations.

            Come on guys! Get over yourselves. You argued black and blue saying it was only fair then, all of you, now that someone you hate is doing it for only the second time, you're acting as if the world is ending despite your hero having done it constantly.

            Any Floyd fan thinking it is completely ok is idiotic, though only from a political standpoint because the weight isnt going to be an issue at all, but any Pac fan arguing against it is even worse and the most hypocritical POS, fake, ******ed ****er going around. The weight itself isn't the issue. It's purely the politics behind it.

            It's what Pac made a career of doing in the last decade, so get the **** over it real quick like. It's no different than Pac/Cotto and no one pretends that was anything other than what it ended up as.

            Also, unless you forgot, Canelo has actually fought under and around 152 a lot recently so 152 is not only fine, but is nothing new at all.

            He fought Baldomir at 150, Rhodes at 153, Hatton at 151, N'Dou at 149, Trout at 153.5, Jose Cotto at 150, Gomez at 153.5 and more.

            In fact, Alvarez's average since 2010 or so is probably at or under 152. Cotto's wasn't. Let it go people. It's the biggest fight in boxing right now, don't ruin with unjustified rubbish, especially when it's actually highly hypocritical. He was fighting as a welterweight up to 2010, and has consistently weighed in under 154 since then often fighting under 152, anywhere between 149 and 153.5 since then.

            152 is no problem at all.
            wow benny. powerful post as usual.

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            • Originally posted by chrismart83 View Post
              Seems its the hypocrisy and not the catchweight thats the issue in this thread. Makes sense, you can't run an argument for years about Pacquiao Vs Cotto then change your views overnight just because of the weight agreement in this fight. If your against catchweights fine..but be consistent. Criticize it in this fight also, if you've criticized in the past.

              If your for/against something thats fine, don't just change your mind in a split-second based on your your 'favorite' fighters most recent actions or people with correctly have a laugh at your expense.
              I mean, have your own opinion..you don't have to always just blindly follow a certain fighter's views like sheep just because you'r a fan.
              Great post n I totally feel the same way.

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              • Originally posted by chrismart83 View Post
                Seems its the hypocrisy and not the catchweight thats the issue in this thread. Makes sense, you can't run an argument for years about Pacquiao Vs Cotto then change your views overnight just because of the weight agreement in this fight. If your against catchweights fine..but be consistent. Criticize it in this fight also, if you've criticized in the past.

                If your for/against something thats fine, don't just change your mind in a split-second based on your your 'favorite' fighters most recent actions or people with correctly have a laugh at your expense.
                I mean, have your own opinion..you don't have to always just blindly follow a certain fighter's views like sheep just because you'r a fan.
                im not personally crazy about it. at first i thought maybe the welterweight titles for floyd were also on the line but they arent, the catch weight i firmly disagree with, i dont see any legit reason as to why 154 is a big deal, but whatever.

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                • Originally posted by Phantomas View Post
                  Floyd "I donīt want best version of Canelo" Mayweather


                  Now Canelo instead of throwing 5 punches per round, is gonna throw 2. Canīt defeat a defensive fighter backed up by judges with that.
                  So he couldn't win it with 2 punches a round, but he could definitely win it with 5 punches a round?



                  The effect of perspective in this case is so hilarious....in fact it's incredible to witness across the board with certain fighters. The amount of **** one guy will get for one tiny thing, because his persona is that of a ****, while another supposedly humble 'fighter of the people', will get away with that same thing twenty times over is amazing. People are ****ed.

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                  • Lol at the rehydratetards in this thread...still ****ing their non existent drum. Its not an issue, it wasnt an issue when day before weigh ins were introduced and its not an issue because floyd fluffers want to get their excuses in, just in case.

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                    • Originally posted by junior gong View Post
                      Lol at the rehydratetards in this thread...still ****ing their non existent drum. Its not an issue, it wasnt an issue when day before weigh ins were introduced and its not an issue because floyd fluffers want to get their excuses in, just in case.


                      i dont even know why you still post. grasping desperately at straws for reasons to dislike a fighter who obviously captivates you as a person and as a man since you have basically used up the last 2 years of your life obsessing over him. He fought guerrero and is now taking on Canelo, both instanes of bigger, pressure fighters who bring it. All the coward talk, all the focus on floyds fans etc, none of that can take away from the fact that you dont have much to hang onto anymore.

                      I find your existence on this board pathetic in every way. Look at what you have been reduced to "rehydratards"

                      come on. give it up.

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