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Originally posted by MC Hammer View PostThe fight their negotiating for is 36yr old floyd vs 23 yr old Canelo. So whatever the hell Floyd was doing at 23 doesn't matter now. Except dominating P4P fighters Canelo at 23 is not doing that but Floyd was; if you want to take it their. Also if you making 85 Million in a yr, being some companies puppet isn't that important.
Either way I wasn't talking about what he has done in the ring. I was talking about marketing wise. Who the hell knew who Floyd was at 23 outside of hardcore boxing fans? Please enlighten me to all the talk show appearances he made at that time. Please tell me about all the exposure he was getting from mainstream media. Floyd was a nobody outside boxing until he fought Oscar and they put his loud mouth, ignorant ass on 24/7. My post you quoted was in response to you talking up Floyd like he has always been a crossover star when that is not the case.
Canelo has a higher trajectory at 23 than Floyd did. Floyd didn't have any buzz until he was 30. Canelo will be a De La Hoya level star by the time he is that age.
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Originally posted by budfr View PostI'll answer the question. Margarito had more ballzz, he never hugged or ran. He preferred to lose an eye and end his career but never backed down. That's how we roll. He lost to cheater Misley cause he was nervous due to the wrap thing. Mosley the cheataear also hugged.
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Originally posted by QballLobo View PostSaid it before and I will say it again, Floyd will never step in the ring with Ginger.
Forget the money, if it was all about the money then we would have seen 2 or 3 May vs Pac fights by now. Plus Floyd gets paid whether he fights Canelo or Devon Alexander, which fight you think he would rather take. I have seen nothing to say that Showtime has any say in picking Mayweather's opponents.
This guy wants to keep that 0 at all costs. His legacy is nothing without it. He has no hall of fame memorable moments, his style is boring, and he has had no rivalry with anybody.
He will avoid risks at all costs. You can say what you want about Canelo skill wise at this point in his career, but the guy has game changing power and will be able to cut off the ring like no one Floyd has seen since he was at 135.
I say again I will eat major crow and give Floyd major props if he takes this fight now or in the future, but I just don't see it happening.
How are you gonna say he only wants to keep his 0? If that was the case, he wouldn't have fought Mosley, Ortiz or Cotto. Just because the guy makes boxing look easy doesn't ****ing mean it is. It's not just anybody who can get into the ring and fight all these fighters (basically anyone) and blow them out like he does. Whens the last time you've seen a 10 or 11 round shut out on a HOF? Don't worry, I'll wait.
You want HOF moments? Watch the first half of his career. Seriously. His style isn't the most entertaining but he does some fabulous **** in the ring. Only other guy to really pull off that sort of thing lately is Rigondeaux.
As far as the thread goes with Alvarez. I'll say that I think they'll fight. The pressure is on Mayweather to take this fight because of what hes been saying these days. Honestly, he's been quiet since Guerrero, which is expected and deserved. We don't know what the next move is but...We'll see, I think he does it but who knows right?
Alvarez may give him trouble, though after that fight with Trout, I'm not sure if he will. It'll be a great fight no doubt but if Alvarez doesn't come in top form, it'll be a long night for him.
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Originally posted by QballLobo View PostI know math isn't Floyd fans strong suit since you worship a guy with a second grade education, but Floyd was 25 going on 26 when he fought Castillo, 24 when he fought Corrales.
Either way I wasn't talking about what he has done in the ring. I was talking about marketing wise. Who the hell knew who Floyd was at 23 outside of hardcore boxing fans? Please enlighten me to all the talk show appearances he made at that time. Please tell me about all the exposure he was getting from mainstream media. Floyd was a nobody outside boxing until he fought Oscar and they put his loud mouth, ignorant ass on 24/7. My post you quoted was in response to you talking up Floyd like he has always been a crossover star when that is not the case.
Canelo has a higher trajectory at 23 than Floyd did. Floyd didn't have any buzz until he was 30. Canelo will be a De La Hoya level star by the time he is that age.
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Canelo: I'll Fight Mayweather, But Only at 154-Pounds
...indeed that's the correct way to negotiate a fight match... Floydie should put into mind that Canelo is also a champion... thereby, he should only demand for what is right... therefore Floyd Money May should not put a stars and the moons in the negotiations table....otherwise it can be construed, and it has already been construed that Floyd Money May is actually a coward... which could be the reasons on WHY he is Cherry Picking....
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Originally posted by RumirNemo View Post...indeed that's the correct way to negotiate a fight match... Floydie should put into mind that Canelo is also a champion... thereby, he should only demand for what is right... therefore Floyd Money May should not put a stars and the moons in the negotiations table....otherwise it can be construed, and it has already been construed that Floyd Money May is actually a coward... which could be the reasons on WHY he is Cherry Picking....
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Originally posted by lopez36 View Postif Floyd wants to fight canelo it should be now that canelo is still learning,although he beat trout I don't think he looked that great,nothing about him that night that stood out and made me think he'll beat Floyd,but I think they will never fight,canelo can fight guys like winner of lara/angulo,maybe give trout a rematch,keith Thurman,maybe if cotto wins his next fight canelo can face him,because if he fights Floyd and wins people will say he was too big,if he goes down to 147 or a catchweight he'll be weak,nothing but excuses so he should just stay at 154 and think of facing others
The same dilemma: Should Floyd (who walks 150) fight Canelo (who walks 165-172) at 154?
Such a fight would be dangerous for Floyd, because Canelo is young, fast, hard hitting and heavier...
Now, DLH would like to push his protege into the PPV stardom (as he once did with Floyd)...
I think Floyd owes DLH big...
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Originally posted by Starz20 View PostAt 23 Floyd was fighting great competition: Corralles, Hernadez, Castillio, Manfreddie,
Now who has Canelo faced that was great on his resume????????????? Trout which is a controversial decision!
WHO ELSE WAS GREAT??? I AM LISTENING!!!!
Originally posted by J The UnBiased View PostSo you're saying Canelo would "Fucc Floyd up"?
Originally posted by J The UnBiased View PostThey don't have an answer for you. They know Canelo has done nothing in his career to warrant this fight, they just hope it happens because they understand that skill can not beat Mayweather, they're hoping that size can at this point, and that's why they want to see it, they get horny at the thought of actually saying after 18 years "I told you he could be beat". Pathetic that they're clamoring for a 172 Pounder to do it, purely pathetic. That being said, I can't wait for this fight to happen at 154 and after the fight the majority of this forum post about how green Canelo is and how Floyd really should of fought Golvokin or Martinez.
Originally posted by Boxerman3000 View PostRight! These fools are asking Mayweather to give a guy 20 pounds as a weight advantage, but turn around and don't demand that Canelo prove himself against Ward, or Martinez or GGG. It's funny to me actually. People always want Mayweather to assume all the risk, yet give his opponents so many outs and excuses. Somebody tell me who Canelo has defeated with his 50-0 record? This is when he should be proving himself against Ward, and Martinez, making himself a young legend as Floyd did. Instead he fights tomato cans, and you people laud him as the next Chavez? Why isn't Canelo calling out the Light Heavy weight champion since he insist on balloning up to 170 in the ring against welter-weights? C'mon Canelo be a man! Go fight Andre Ward!
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