Froch easily. Joe has like 3-4 good wins total.
Who has the Better Resume Froch or Calzaghe?
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Solid as usualI think that head-to-head match-up would be a hell of a lot closer than some would suggest.
Calzaghe has great stamina, sure, but while that was enough to beat a lot of fighters (mainly average or old one's), Carl can go for 12 rounds at a hot pace. Carl would also go forward all night and have no worry about being hurt....that's a close fight.
Also, I had Hopkins winning against Calzaghe. Sorry, but every meaningful punch was landed by Hopkins, Calzaghe slapped at thin air most of the night.Comment
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It's funny to me when you start hearing;Froch & I don't feel its close of debatable and no shame really as Froch has a beastly resume.
Calzaghe spent a decade fighting bums on the Cardiff Ice rink. Froch has spent the last decade travelling the world and fighting the very best.
In fact Joe only has two wins I give him credit for; Kessler & B-Hop and I felt that fight could of gone either way.
"He beat, err..Richie Woodhall! (coming off a loss) That's a good win"
"Errr, who else, err, Charles Brewer! (Coming off a 3 round up and down war with Atwon Echols) that's a good win"
"Errr, Omar Shieka!"
Whenever I see these kind of threads it get's to a point where I see guy's like this being reeled off when in actual reality the wins are at the very best decent and nothing more.Comment
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At the time, Calzaghe's win over Lacy was the equivalent of Froch's win over Bute.
That said, I'd take Froch.
Froch has several wins that were really close that are the equivalent of Calzaghe over Hopkins (i.e. Dirrel/Pascal).Comment
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People need to take note of this because it is official and makes a mockery of his legacy...He barely beat any "good guys".
The rare time he fought a "good guy" most of the time they were coming off a poor performance or a loss and thus either out or at the bottom of the rankings.
He fought 3 fighters his entire career who were amongst the Top 5 in his division at that time.
Froch consistently fights the best and and almost all of the time beats the best.Comment
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No doubt he had some, and more than that, bad ones. Everyone with 20 or so defenses in any division has their share. I didn't feel he lost to Reid and Beyer barely won against Woodhall with the knockdowns. Those were both solid wins. Again, I think era counts too. He fought a lot of junk and missed, what, Ottke who had no interest? Girard? That's the bigger issue with Calzaghe: he could have moved up sooner but at Super Middleweight it was just a fairly bad time. The difference between 5 and 9 for most of his reign was nada.So, what you mean is "If Woodhall had won he'd be Top 5"
Well, the lost so that's compeltely irrelevant. And he lost fight clearly IMO.
Eubank?
Please.
Brewer who has 2-2 going into that fight. Both loss's with controversy but still a 3 round up and down war with Atwon Echols who himself was coming off a beating and stoppage loss to Hopkins.
Mitchell coming off a loss.
Robin Reid I felt he lost the fight and so did many others.
Bika is one of his best wins which in itself tells the story of his career.
Reeling off names like Omar Shieka and guys like Richie Woodhall in general tell the story even further.
Hopkins, Kessler and Lacy are good wins against top opposition and they are the only 3 fights you can say that about.
It's not "emphasising top 5" I'm merely stating a fact. He fought 3 fighters his entire career who were amongst the Top 5 in his division which is pathetic, frankly.
The "Bus Boy's" being referred to are the title defenses against the likes of Ricky Thornberry, Branko Sobot, Tucker Pudwill and the other hilariously terrible and meaningless title defenses he had.
Froch's strength of schedule is surely superior though. It's superior to almost everyone's in the last 15 years.Comment
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I love when people list guys like Woodhall and Sheika for Calzaghe, than they straight up discredit top tier fighters and highly ranked fighters that greats like Floyd and Manny have beaten. But then they list lower tier fighters as good wins for guys like Calzaghe. Truly funny.
I give Joe credit for Hopkins, Lacy, Kessler, and Bika. He arguably lost to Hopkins.
I give Froch credit for Pascal, Abraham, Dirrell, Johnson, Bute, and Kessler. But he arguably lost to Dirrell.
It's got to be Froch.Comment
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