Comments Thread For: Froch Furious With Groves, Cleverly Over Kessler Help

[Clegg]

There's been rumours close to the camp that he knocked Groves out cold in sparring for some time now.

He has "official" L's against Cleverly and Bellew but the ref was paid off against Cleverly in the premature stoppage and there's been a lot of controversy behind both bouts actually.

I dunno, Clev knocked him down about 5 times from what I can recall.

[IronDanHamza]

I dunno, Clev knocked him down about 5 times from what I can recall.

He was knocking him down but he couldn't keep him down.

D-MAC got dropped and flipped up like Prince Naseem that's how much the punches weren't bothering him.

He even had his hands down shaking his head like Floyd Mayweather slipping his punches with ease.

Like he said after the fight, the gameplan was to take him into deep waters in the late rounds and drown his soul but the paid off ref knew it.

The rope-a-dope was working.

[SAJ10]

He was knocking him down but he couldn't keep him down.

D-MAC got dropped and flipped up like Prince Naseem that's how much the punches weren't bothering him.

He even had his hands down shaking his head like Floyd Mayweather slipping his punches with ease.

Like he said after the fight, the gameplan was to take him into deep waters in the late rounds and drown his soul but the paid off ref knew it.

The rope-a-dope was working.
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This is nonsense.

I watched it live and McIntosh said in the interview after - he beat me fair and square he was too fast, too strong, I think got beaten by a future World Champion tonight.

He was knocked down 4/5 times and just wasn't in the fight or throwing anything when he got stopped. Cleverly looked strong and nothing McIntosh - he walked through McIntosh.

The fight on youtube if anyone wants to see it.

This was a British Title fight a good few years back now.

[IronDanHamza]

This is nonsense.

I watched it live and McIntosh said in the interview after - he beat me fair and square he was too fast, too strong, I think got beaten by a future World Champion tonight.

He was knocked down 4/5 times and just wasn't in the fight or throwing anything when he got stopped. Cleverly looked strong and nothing McIntosh - he walked through McIntosh.

The fight on youtube if anyone wants to see it.

This was a British Title fight a good few years back now.

He was trying to be humble after being robbed.

He later went on to reveal the truth, that he has sufficient evidence that the referee was paid off and wasn't allowed to execute his gameplan.

He was robbed that night, not for the first time and I doubt the last considering it seems judges don't like his defensive mastery.

[EvilGenius]

Stop Crying you ****...
He knows Kessler is going to put him on his ass.

[techliam]

Cleverley is no World 'champion' he's a titlist until he fights someone half decent. Hopkins isn't the only world class fighter at the weight yet he seems to be the only guy at world level Cleverley is willing to fight!

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He's offered Froch and Kessler to opportunity to challenge for his title.

http://www1.skysports.com/froch/story/28807/8719734

I think the thing over Cleverly's opponents is a little ott.

The American TV (not sure which network) turned down Cleverly Shumenov in America, they said he needed to build his profile (hence the Shawn Hawk fight in LA). Shumenov flat out refused to come to the UK to do it instead.


Kusemski (Breahmer pulled out last minute not Clev's fault)
Bellew a domestic rivalry
Karpancy - bad opponent
Hawk - to gain American exposure
Krasniqi - no:1 contender mandatory

First and last fight's he had no choice in the matter.

I can forgive the Bellew fight as a domestic rivalry - Bellew had been calling Cleverly out for years and with the heated press conference and everything...

Hawk too to gain exposure in the American market.

Karpency is a stinker of an opponent - no two ways.

Also, lets not forget Murat who he beat before becoming World Champ. Murat has a win and draw over Campillo who gave Cloud all he could handle.

Another decent opponent that gets overlooked.

I agree Cleverly needs a big fight and to step up in opponents now - there isn't any more room for B B+ level guys.

See the thing is, it doesn't matter who or what is to blame for Cleverly's choice of opponents. The fact is, his resume is pretty darn terrible, hence he's not regarded as a true Champ, only a titlist. The best opponent in my opinion is Bellew, and that fight was either way - not a clear win. As Froch said before, Cleverly is a WBO Champion not a World Champion. Until proven otherwise of course.

[BattlingNelson]

I never really understood why Kessler's team would hire the services of Froch's teammates. I believe it's a mistake and potentially a bad one.

Of course Groves would tell Froch if Kessler had hurt his ribs or any other injury. Groves would really benefit from sharing that Info given the fact that a potential domestic showdown with Froch is so much bigger than a bout with Kessler and far more likely to materialize.

In other words I believe this to be a smokescreen that actually enhances the potential value of a Groves/Cleverly fight with Froch down the line.

[BattlingNelson]

He's referring to D-MAC who knocked out Groves in sparring. That's been going round a while.

Speaking of which, notice not a peep from Froch about D-MAC? Who has been giving the business to Kessler in sparring according to sources and was kicked out of camp a few times for helping him prepare for Froch.

I dont understand? Did Kessler nearly kick him out of Camp because he helped him prepare for Froch?

I'm sure thats not right. Where did I get it wrong Dan?

[IronDanHamza]

I dont understand? Did Kessler nearly kick him out of Camp because he helped him prepare for Froch?

I'm sure thats not right. Where did I get it wrong Dan?

The reliable rumour is that when he brought him in to help him prepare for Froch, he's been putting a beating on Kessler and was kicked out for it.

[BattlingNelson]

The reliable rumour is that when he brought him in to help him prepare for Froch, he's been putting a beating on Kessler and was kicked out for it.

Reliable you say?

Damn that doesn't sound good coming from a stand-up poster like you.