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Froch would kill Cleverly, at any weight.
He seems like a nice guy, but Clev is not very good...he lost to Bellew IMO.
He seems like a nice guy, but Clev is not very good...he lost to Bellew IMO.
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Cleverly against Froch would be a war, a classic British fight tbh. Froch has repeatedly said he has no desire to go to 175lbs though, shame.
I'll settle for Groves-Froch in a couple years time though.Comment
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Using your logic then, Cleverly would be around around rank 5 or 6 in the world rankings without these belts. Without these belts, why would Froch even consider fighting Cleverly? He wouldn't, so unfortunately we have to accept that these belts mean something.
As you said, Cleverly should be upping his opposition at 175 rather than chasing Froch, whom is only a titlist at 168. Unless he goes down to 168, I don't see how Cleverly would get any credit for beating Froch at 175 simply because Froch is very very effective at 168 and has never been above the weight.
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Listen, Froch was calling Calzaghe out as British Champion and expected Calzaghe to fight him.
Calzaghe mocked Froch and his worthless opposition at the time, Froch didn't like it. Now he's doing the same to Cleverly.
So how are the two different in Froch's eyes, at least Cleverly hold's one of the 4 straps and offers Froch something to gain - another strap at another weight.
I didn't like the way Calzaghe mocked Froch, I agreed with Calzaghe that he had far bigger fish to fry at that stage but thought he should have been moe respectful in the way he turned down Froch, end of.
Of course the up and coming guy wants to fight the guy who's most recognised for status and cash.
The difference right now between Froch calling out Calzaghe and Cleverly calling out Froch is there is a least a carrot on offer Froch if he takes the fight i.e he has something to gain if he wins.
I was pointing out using your initial logic that Froch wouldn't have even been a Champion back in the old day of one belt.
Cleverly isn't merely chasing Froch - he's offering a fight to him, Kessler, Hopkins and basically anyone else that wants a crack.
Really - you don't think Cleverly gets 'any' credit if he beats Froch at 175? Froch is an established name with a lot of good names on his CV - and hard as nails, I grant you, Cleverly does not as much credit as beating Froch at a catchweight or 168 or if Froch comes up and proves himself at 175 first but, he still get good credit all the same.
It will at least show Cleverly can mix with the elite of 168/175 and isn't just a paper champ as many are saying.
Simply, the thing I don't like is - why should Froch run down Cleverly's oppo, when he doesn't want the fight - he could have been more respectful about it the same way Calzaghe should have been imo to Froch.Comment
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Froch would kill Cleverly, at any weight.
He seems like a nice guy, but Clev is not very good...he lost to Bellew IMO.
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That's an opinion not really a great argument. Care to elaborate how?Comment
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