Comments Thread For: Fighting Words: Should Floyd Face the Best of 154, 160?

[The Big Dunn]

When a fighter constantly gloats about their skill, money, blah blah blah, then also consistently ducks their biggest challenges... no, they are not the best. They obviously think they are, but that simply isn't an opinion based in reality. He won't fight Canelo at the weight he should fight him at, he's scared to death of Canelo and Pacman, he wouldn't fight Shane or Oscar til they were past their prime... and the list goes on and on.

Let him prove his worth (which he will never do, especially with 5 fights left). I'll admit he's good, has speed and good defense, but no, I'm not admitting he's great. He didn't fight the toughest challenges. He's only a champ at pomposity and ducking. Nothing more. He claims to be the best ever, yet he'd never have lasted 5 rounds with a prime Sugar Ray Leonard.

I'm not admitting he's great.

[Ko King 212]

Keep telling yourself that. He does more than the Ghost did, or Judah, or Ortiz, or Sharmba.

And this is without mentioning the enormous money to be made with that particular matchup.

He does nothing for his resume. Money yeah but legacy no. Dude just fought his first jmw. Even then he he got a favorable decision(at worst it should have been a draw). Canelo hasnt done **** that would help floyd's legacy.

Dude had the belt for damn near 3 years. He fought his first JMW champion.... foh...

[PunchyPotorff]

When a fighter claims to be the Greatest of All TIME there are things
"EXPECTED" of him "IF" he is being serious.

1. You don't avoid threats you seek them out !

2. You don't vacate the property when an elite is ready for you and retire from boxing you go take the challenge.

for instance take the Greatest that ever laced up gloves, in my opinion, he sought out threats, he called them out,

Liston
Fraizer
Foreman

I can't think of any three fighters that posed greater threats than these.

I can't think of one that Challenge Ali that he didn't fight, it was more if not conclusively Ali on the hunt for any challenge.

3. May Jr has the skills to whup the average to better fighter but there are holes in his armor:
a. He chooses the easy way OUT
b. He takes the challenges, claiming to never turn down a challenge but that in reality it applys to smaller fighters like Hatton and poor little JMM, look how he cheated on him, how can you as a fight fan respect that ?
c. He wouldn't fight Cotto in his prime in 2007 had to retire, flat turned down a prime Margo but later after Cotto had been ravaged and not even close to what he once was Jr made a big deal of fighting him declaring him undefeated and happy to fight him in his weight division and declared he didn't like to weight drain any fighter and wanted them to be comfortable with their weight but we have read lately he wants Canelo to fight him at 147 !??
d. He said he never turns a challenge down but he to my knowledge has not taken up the challenge by Sergio Martinez to destroy him.
e. what Jr does best is cherry pick , waits for an advantage, like size or age or ring warn, then claim SUPREMACY.

The boxing Public will choose, we all have that right who is da man, we all have our criteria for who is the best.

There is no one in the WW's that will pose a problem so the natural thing to do is look for a challenge. He has a title at 154, DEFEND IT !!!

Sergio said he could fight at 154 and NOW that he is breaking down Jr could win that fight

Triple G said he could fight at 154

Lara fights at 154 etc............

But what has sealed the deal that Jr will not come close to being considered the GOAT is the way that he handled the case with Manny Pacquiao. From 500 year ago bullets that can't penetrate due to drugs to all the many Excuses he went thru to """"""""""""AVOID"""""""""""" a PRIME PACMAN

and NOW its OVER

He might get into the hall of fame but its "SHADY", and Shameful !!!!!!

Now if he had kept his mouth shut about being great etc....... I wouldn't be writing this or making a big deal of it.

^^^ Exactly this ^^^. Lotta boxing fans are gullible though... they'll be Floydie fans to the death... buying his b.s. ducking excuses hook line and sinker.

[Doctor_Tenma]

When a fighter constantly gloats about their skill, money, blah blah blah, then also consistently ducks their biggest challenges... no, they are not the best. They obviously think they are, but that simply isn't an opinion based in reality. He won't fight Canelo at the weight he should fight him at, he's scared to death of Canelo and Pacman, he wouldn't fight Shane or Oscar til they were past their prime... and the list goes on and on.

Let him prove his worth (which he will never do, especially with 5 fights left). I'll admit he's good, has speed and good defense, but no, I'm not admitting he's great. He didn't fight the toughest challenges. He's only a champ at pomposity and ducking. Nothing more. He claims to be the best ever, yet he'd never have lasted 5 rounds with a prime Sugar Ray Leonard.

When Mayweather's career is all set and done, I'm sure he's gonna be remembered for his work at 130-135, and will be compared to the greats there. I can be equally as ignorant as you and say Leonard wouldn't have lasted with a prime Roy though

I love when the hate sips through the cracks.

[FightTalent]

Mayweather should absolutely fight Canelo at 154, not only for legacy but for the money as well..... No excuse or reasoning with weigh here.

How about Canelo drop to 147 instead since he is calling Floyd out? 150lbs vs potentially 165+ lbs is obviously a distinct size advantage for the heavier guy and I commend Floyd for not doing a catch weight which is Pac's M.O. Floyd gets the money regardless so that nullifies your logic, as for legacy, Canelo does nothing at this point for Floyd's legacy. Canelo is a younger, strong, bigger foe that the Floyd haters are hopefully can defeat Floyd to satisfy their dislike of him. I dont hear much about Canelo vs Sergio....

[-PBP-]

Good article.

If Floyd plans on keeping his title at 154, he should fight Canelo at that weight.


If he plans on staying at 47, he should just say so. A lot of fighters have gone up in weight to fight for a title just to put that achievement on their resume even though they had no plans on staying there. That's perfectly acceptable. Likely he's not going to come out and say it because he and Canelo both benefit financially if there is a potential fight looming between them.

[twosweethooks]

When Mayweather's career is all set and done, I'm sure he's gonna be remembered for his work at 130-135, and will be compared to the greats there. I can be equally as ignorant as you and say Leonard wouldn't have lasted with a prime Roy though

I love when the hate sips through the cracks.

A very WEAK and sic reply

[Doctor_Tenma]

A very WEAK and sic reply

Well this reply right here was good enough to convince me otherwise, thanks

[PunchyPotorff]

When Mayweather's career is all set and done, I'm sure he's gonna be remembered for his work at 130-135, and will be compared to the greats there. I can be equally as ignorant as you and say Leonard wouldn't have lasted with a prime Roy though

I love when the hate sips through the cracks.

You're confusing hate with pointing out reality... but hey that's fine if you wanna be gullible and ignorant at the same time.

[Doctor_Tenma]

You're confusing hate with pointing out reality... but hey that's fine if you wanna be gullible and ignorant at the same time.

Thanks for not really addressing my post, stay hateful