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  • Originally posted by DLT View Post
    here is what I wrote in another thread when people talk about floyd already having fought at 154:



    They always bring up he fought Oscar & Cotto there. The Oscar & Cotto fights were 5 years apart to the date. 5 years. Most of the same people ripping him for this are the same people who say that Floyd's 2 worst fights in the last decade are the Oscar & Cotto fights.

    I could see if one of 2 things happened. I could see if Floyd looked great in thsoe fights or just against Cotto. I could see if he totally dominated, stopped Cotto, etc.. and then says he doesnt want Canelo at 154. That didnt happen.

    I could also see if Floyd fought like 5 fights there and now wont fight Canelo. That didnt happen. I could see if he's saying NO to Canelo but yes to someone else at 154. That didnt happen.

    Sure he said what you said he said about Cotto but what did he say after the fight? He talked about how tough Cotto was and how much punishment he took. So much so that he called his dad to come back in to train him. He's talked non stop about it. Whats wrong with him fighting Oscar for the money, realizing he was too small, and then going back to WW?

    Now 5 years later he gives it aother shot, realizes there is a limit where he has to stop, and again goes back to WW? Again, you guys are acing like he Gatti'd Cotto or that he's fighting a ton of other guys but not Canelo. Its not the case
    Honestly, all that tells me is he's a b1tch. He didn't even take crazy punishment in those fights. He basically wants an easy road. That's wack.

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    • Originally posted by DLT View Post
      thats what it is man because its bascially weather people wanna admit it or not, youre telling him to go until he loses. Like youre suppose to be in this group but your too good so you move to the next group and youre still too good. You keep going until you finally say "ok stop". This is the group you have to be in now but unfortuantely for you, the guy has 25 pounds on you. Dont worry though, its a fair and even fight. BTW, if you dont take it youre a coward........lol

      Seriously, its like none of the guys in the group around you can beat you so we have to take you to a group where you have a chance to lose. Here is the 25 pound plus group. Fight him, coward
      It's really sad....and even if he did go up it'll be all types of excuses "aww man he only beat canelo cuz canelo was too fat n slow but if not canelo would've won"
      If he agrees to a catch weigh it'll be that canelo is drained....
      Like u said its not his fault well it is lol that he's that good but it's not his fault nobody in his division is on his level.....you cannot be getting punished for that that's ****in nonsense. So the 96 bulls should've been playing against 6 people not 5 cuz they were so good. Lebron James shouldn't be able to play the point guard cuz he's to big and good and sphe shouldn't play the forward cuz he's to fast n good.....lol these Floyd haters are some thing else...

      Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
      According to Canelo's coach FMJ refused the catchweight, it sounded like Alvarez was willing to meet him halfway.

      At the end of the day if Floyd doesn't want to fight, he doesn't want to fight. He should get on with boxing his Guerreros and Maidanas and forget about JMW.
      His peop,e said they didn't even want a catch weight from what I read...nothing less nothing more then 154.

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      • Originally posted by DLT View Post
        I know and now we have to wait and see whats next. Either he fights a 154 pound guy or he should be stripped. I never argued against that
        Martinez offered him two years ago 154 with whatever terms Floyd wanted and I would bet to say Martinez is smaller than Canelo. I just find it ludicrous he can fight guys coming up in weight but can't come up in weight to defend his own title.

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        • Originally posted by DLT View Post
          it was 151. It was 150. How is he going to get to 155? Its like you guys even think the weight is too far apart so you are trying to add weight. He's not going to be 155 and you know it so stop it. Also, 164 or not, he still came from lower weights. Its the same with Cotto. Its not like a guy who started at 154 and is super huge there. Its not the same
          It's not impossible for him to come in weighing 155 pounds. All u guys wanna do is make Floyd out to be as small as possible. This makes no sense to me.

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          • Originally posted by Big Rigg View Post
            It's not impossible for him to come in weighing 155 pounds. All u guys wanna do is make Floyd out to be as small as possible. This makes no sense to me.
            This +1!!!

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            • Originally posted by RAGALAC View Post
              His peop,e said they didn't even want a catch weight from what I read...nothing less nothing more then 154.
              Read the link http://www.boxingscene.com/canelos-t...-weight--65430

              "We proposed an intermediate weight for things to be level for both fighters, but he [Mayweather] refused."

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              • Originally posted by turnedup View Post
                I'd like to see proof of that last statement.
                i was trying to get the 2nd & 3rd morales fights on youtube but all of them start after the weights. Here is the Diaz fight at 135 though where he's 147 in the ring. I remember all of it like yesterday because Pac looked so much bigger & stronger than Morales in the rematch

                go to 9:22

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                • He also didn't start fighting at the full 154 pound limit until he fought Baldomir. He was always in between. That was in 2010.

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                  • Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
                    Read the link http://www.boxingscene.com/canelos-t...-weight--65430

                    "We proposed an intermediate weight for things to be level for both fighters, but he [Mayweather] refused."
                    Ok I see that but I also read in another article that said thy would not even consider anything lower the. 154 so who knows what's true n what's not. I think 150 is what it should be at **** it no belts everybody keep they dam belts cuz like everybody's said this ain't about n dam belts. These fighters are bigger the. The belts he'll Sulaiman kisses Floyd's ass so much he might make a 150 belt just for him lol

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                    • Originally posted by turnedup View Post
                      I'd like to see proof of that last statement.
                      here he is in the 2nd JMM fight

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