Comments Thread For: Miguel Cotto's Adviser Confirms Talks With Freddie Roach

[Metho_4u]

I can't stand Cotto. He used to be one of the best when he actually fought the best. Now all he does is fight overhyped tomato cans. He won't even hold post fight interviews after he loses. I don't know why people like this guy.

Fact is, his career was over after he quit against Margacheato. I think Clotty was robbed in his fight, then he lost to PAC, and hasn't fought anyone good until Floyd and Trout. Take out all of the bs fights in between like Yuri Foreman, and he lost to Margacheato, Clotty (IMO), PAC, Floyd, and Trout. That's five losses in a row. He's done.

Only fight I would be interested in seeing him fight is a battle of hasbeens, Cotto vs Mosley.

BUT mark my words! Cotto will come back, claim to have reinvented himself and continue to fight tonmato cans and receive praise from the boxing community for it. Wake up people.

So Cotto fights several tough fights, gets with a new trainer in Steward and tests the waters against Mayorga and Foreman @ 154 and that's bad? I think after some of the hard fights he was in, he deserved some fights that might help him hone his skills.

By the way, you know he already beat Mosley right? I don't really think you know what you're talking about tbh and I don't think you even knew he fought Shane before. You're dumb.

[Metho_4u]

He can't just keep blaming the trainer every time he loses.

How many trainers is this now?

He should have just stayed with Pedro Diaz.

I don't think he ever blamed Diaz or any trainer. Maybe he felt it wasn't a good fit.. I think going with roach is more than a mistake, but it's his choice. Diaz trains him and trains him hard. He doesn't play with him and you could see in his fight with Floyd he was quite durable, quick and was obviously landing a lot of punches, maybe not huge punches, but that doesn't matter.

[JmH Reborn]

He can't just keep blaming the trainer every time he loses.

How many trainers is this now?

He should have just stayed with Pedro Diaz.

I think the trainer thing is a bit overblown

Uncle Cotto; then he went to Santiago, who was his waterboy. Makes sense to drop that dude like a bad habit.

Then he went to Steward...which was a good fit. But there seemed to be a language barrier, who knows. Then he went to Pedro. It's not he's dropping guys after every loss. He left Steward after two wins, it could have been money, language who knows. He left Santiago, because well, Santiago is his waterboy in camp, and bus driver by day.

And now Pedro, was it money? Was it issues regarding prep for Trout, or was it a timing issue, since Pedro seems to be getting more business, or simply a one time deal. I don't know, but I think it's pretty presumptuous and pretentious to dictate to a pro what's in his best or worst interest.

Maybe he feels if he lands the Canelo fight, that Roach is his best option on improving his offensive game and stamina. He already has good boxing technique, if he can add some offensive variety, then so be it. All of Roach's fighters have good offensive variety, none of them have what Cotto has, and that's an ounce of boxing skills. Could be a dangerous combo, or it can be a trainwreck.

[Bigg Rigg]

This is probably a good idea. Cotto needs to be more offensive minded. Roach can maybe bring that back outta him.

[SplitSecond]

IMO, cotto needed roach for trout, and needs Diaz for canelo.

Trout was somebody that cotto needed to quit hopping around and being cute, needed to stand his ground, assert himself and become a bully. Canelo is somebody who cotto needs to box, much like he did against margarito in the second fight.

definitely not, first off, what you suggested he should have done vs trout is what he tried, and it's the reason he lost, trout with his gay slapping hooks cuff and turn you as you are coming in and then he throws a combination that is very difficult to defend against as you are spinning

against alvarez he definitely needs to be aggressive and not box too patiently

[Slyboots]

I think the trainer thing is a bit overblown

Uncle Cotto; then he went to Santiago, who was his waterboy. Makes sense to drop that dude like a bad habit.

Then he went to Steward...which was a good fit. But there seemed to be a language barrier, who knows. Then he went to Pedro. It's not he's dropping guys after every loss. He left Steward after two wins, it could have been money, language who knows. He left Santiago, because well, Santiago is his waterboy in camp, and bus driver by day.

And now Pedro, was it money? Was it issues regarding prep for Trout, or was it a timing issue, since Pedro seems to be getting more business, or simply a one time deal. I don't know, but I think it's pretty presumptuous and pretentious to dictate to a pro what's in his best or worst interest.

Maybe he feels if he lands the Canelo fight, that Roach is his best option on improving his offensive game and stamina. He already has good boxing technique, if he can add some offensive variety, then so be it. All of Roach's fighters have good offensive variety, none of them have what Cotto has, and that's an ounce of boxing skills. Could be a dangerous combo, or it can be a trainwreck.

Regarding Pedro, I strongly believe Cotto felt that training camp was a mistake.

And people who think Cotto should team with Roach and focus on offense, this guy has taken a ton of damage in his career and I think it's extremely important for him to focus more on boxing and defense. Roach has a rep for foregoing those things in favor of a more offensive style. Not to mention his fighters are all losing left and right.

[Da Boxer]

Bunch of haters and what not on this thread. Cotto knows his reasoning behind the departure/change of trainer.

For the morons hating on Miguel, they should look around and see who has fought the hardest fights, P4P Miguel has fought the better boxers in the last 10 years! Fugg you all haters!

If he changes underwear you fuggfaces will hate on him. Let him be, the dude is one hard mofo!

He will be missed soon....and will be a HOF and the haters will continue to hate!

War Cotto!

[Evol]

^^^ agreed!! People on here posting as if they train or see cotto everyday. I'm not putting any trainers down but obviously there was something missing hence the reason why he decides to look for a new trainer. Maybe he felt what Diaz was teaching him is not effective for him, every fighter is different, Diaz way of training might work for some and might not for others.

[NoMoTomatoCans]

So Cotto fights several tough fights, gets with a new trainer in Steward and tests the waters against Mayorga and Foreman @ 154 and that's bad? I think after some of the hard fights he was in, he deserved some fights that might help him hone his skills.

By the way, you know he already beat Mosley right? I don't really think you know what you're talking about tbh and I don't think you even knew he fought Shane before. You're dumb.

Moving up in weight after you lost 3 fights in a row (IMO lost to Clottey) to face Foreman and Mayorga is not testing the waters. It's called fighting tomato cans to avoid losing again and having to retire. Really from going from competition such as PAC to Foreman, how can u defend that decision? "He needed some fights to hone his skills" you say. So from fighting the best at WW to jumping up and fighting hasbeens and neverbeens helped him hone his skills?

And yes I'm aware Cotto already beat Mosley. The point is they were both tough warriors who fought the best. Also the fight was close and with them both being washed up, if they refuse to retire the only fight I would want to see from them is a rematch.

[Metho_4u]

Moving up in weight after you lost 3 fights in a row (IMO lost to Clottey) to face Foreman and Mayorga is not testing the waters. It's called fighting tomato cans to avoid losing again and having to retire. Really from going from competition such as PAC to Foreman, how can u defend that decision? "He needed some fights to hone his skills" you say. So from fighting the best at WW to jumping up and fighting hasbeens and neverbeens helped him hone his skills?

And yes I'm aware Cotto already beat Mosley. The point is they were both tough warriors who fought the best. Also the fight was close and with them both being washed up, if they refuse to retire the only fight I would want to see from them is a rematch.

It's not uncommon for a fighter to test the waters at a new weight. How can I justify it? Simple, as many already said... Cotto fought pretty much everyone there was, he's never ducked anyone that I know of and you're acting like a total b*tch about it. You didn't know he fought Mosley otherwise you would have worded your first post differently. Were Floyd and Trout tomato cans? How about the second fight with cheato? Just stfu, i'll bet you've never even sparred in your entire life.