Manuel Charr: "The Klitschkos' are afraid of Haye!" (Video)

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Wlad fought a smart fight and won with an ease. Your claim that he was afraid is just your speculation.

If another active boxer is saying the Klitschkos are afraid it's more than just my speculation, I'm not the only one who's noticed it. The Wlad situation is debatable. I give credit to Wlad for at least getting in the ring with Haye, although he did fight extremely cautious the whole fight against the much smaller man. That's undeniable, just watch the fight.

There's no denying Vitali is afraid, he said that he would fight Haye if Haye beat Chisora and we all know what happened. It's beyond debate, actions speak louder than words.

[Simurgh]

If another active boxer is saying the Klitschkos are afraid it's more than just my speculation, I'm not the only one who's noticed it. The Wlad situation is debatable. I give credit to Wlad for at least getting in the ring with Haye, although he did fight extremely cautious the whole fight against the much smaller man. That's undeniable, just watch the fight.

There's no denying Vitali is afraid, he said that he would fight Haye if Haye beat Chisora and we all know what happened. It's beyond debate, actions speak louder than words.

If you are going to give any weight what Charr is saying I recommend you go on his twitter profile, you'll have a laugh.

Wlad was cautions against fast, powerful ambush fighter. Bravo for that! He should have been.

Vitali never said he'll fight Haye if he beats Chisora. That came from mouth of Chisora promoter as an idea and Klitschko promoter said 'sounds like a good idea.' Vitali said nothing...

This discussion is becoming pointless as you'll claim again how Vitali is scared of Haye and I think noone who even remotely followed Vitali's career can say that.

Good night... till the next discussion...

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This discussion is becoming pointless as you'll claim again how Vitali is scared of Haye and I think noone who even remotely followed Vitali's career can say that.

Good night... till the next discussion...

I've followed Vitali's career for a long time. Believe it or not he's one of my favorite active heavyweights. But when he fought Chisora he did say that he wanted to knockout Haye.

Here's the video:


After Haye knocked out Chisora, Vitali went dead quiet. That's the truth of the situation and we can't deny it. Over time people seem to have forgotten events, or rewrite history to suit their argument but the video evidence is pretty conclusive and there's more out there if you care to search for it.

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I wonder if Charr will throw another tantrum in his next loss

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As 'tasting of Haye's power' happened in 12th round and Wlad caught Haye in 6th round I think Haye was the tentative one for a longer period of the fight.

Wlad fought a smart fight. Haye is an ambush fighter. Him putting his hands down was the part of tactics to get Wlad close enough and to do what he did to Chisora. Wlad is just too smart and too good to fall for that.

I don't know what Wlad felt and I really don't care. He schooled Haye and got a wide UD.

Since when is 'schooling' landing 5 jabs a round and landing less power shots than your opponent?

Sorry my man, Wlad clearly won, but he didn't school him and Haye didn't run at any point in the fight. Ducking a right hand and using the ring is not running.

It's an excuse used by some to explain why Haye wasn't KOd. Fact is, Wlad couldn't really land anything meaningful on Haye and didn't really want to engage. His face was more marked up than Hayes after the fight. Haye couldn't really land anything, he was out of range and couldn't lure Wlad in. This is what happens, it was a boring fight between two good fighters, where ones gameplan was better than the others.

But nobody was schooled and nobody ran.

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Since when is 'schooling' landing 5 jabs a round and landing less power shots than your opponent?

Sorry my man, Wlad clearly won, but he didn't school him and Haye didn't run at any point in the fight. Ducking a right hand and using the ring is not running.

It's an excuse used by some to explain why Haye wasn't KOd. Fact is, Wlad couldn't really land anything meaningful on Haye and didn't really want to engage. His face was more marked up than Hayes after the fight. Haye couldn't really land anything, he was out of range and couldn't lure Wlad in. This is what happens, it was a boring fight between two good fighters, where ones gameplan was better than the others.

But nobody was schooled and nobody ran.

Ok, he didn't schooled him, he won a wide clear UD (I see these two as very similar things). Wlad landed (not fully clear), but still landed a huge right in 6th round. After that Haye wasn't the same.

Wlad's face wasn't more marked up by any means. Haye had a huge mark above his left eye. That's why he wore glasses on post fight press conference. Wlad had a few small cuts. (and keep in mind that on pale skin it's always more noticeable).

Again, Haye's own trainer gave a nice summery of the fight.

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What the point in having a height advantage if you are not going to stay on outside and use it? I know you aren't the brightest member here, so I'll give you a couple of days to think about it.

This coming from a guy who's never even stepped foot in a boxing ring! That's rich!

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Ok, he didn't schooled him, he won a wide clear UD (I see these two as very similar things). Wlad landed (not fully clear), but still landed a huge right in 6th round. After that Haye wasn't the same.

Wlad's face wasn't more marked up by any means. Haye had a huge mark above his left eye. That's why he wore glasses on post fight press conference. Wlad had a few small cuts. (and keep in mind that on pale skin it's always more noticeable).

Again, Haye's own trainer gave a nice summery of the fight.

Think the pictures speak for themselves.

A wide UD in a fight where not many punches were landed is not schooling in my book.
Fx. Mayweather vs Mosley was a schooling. This was just a wide UD.

[Simurgh]

Think the pictures speak for themselves.

A wide UD in a fight where not many punches were landed is not schooling in my book.
Fx. Mayweather vs Mosley was a schooling. This was just a wide UD.

Ok, it was a wide UD for wlad

Find one without the glasses.
You can see on this one as well. Look at that left side.



This is Wlad day after the fight.

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Ok, it was a wide UD for wlad

Find one without the glasses.
You can see on this one as well. Look at that left side.



This is Wlad day after the fight.

I'm not doubting haye had a few swells. He also had a busted lip. Wlad needed stitches on that wound.

Regardless, I completely agree that Wlad dominated the fight. Especially after the 6th round. Rounds 1-6 were very very close imo. If you go back and watch it, David was lightening quick, and landed a few jabs and a big right in the 3rd. Wlad landed a good punch in the 5th if i'm not mistaken and then Haye started to slow.

Nevertheless, I would just like to see a rematch.