Manuel Charr: "The Klitschkos' are afraid of Haye!" (Video)

[Barry Halls]

What did Haye do to redeem himself again?

Fight a couple of top25 level opponents?

Sorry, but 1 guy may be retiring and the other already schooled him. He'll have to earn another shot.

[FrankieBruno]

I can't think of a fighter who would be able to 'catch' Haye when he is in 'running mode'. It would be extremely ****** to chase powerful, extremely fast ambush fighter. Especially when you can dominate it from the distance.

Run? Haye was standing with his hands down right infront of Wlad throughout the fight

Wlad was to scared to unload because he didn't want to get countered

Wlad tasted Hayes power and caged up, I don't blame him, but he was **** scared to engage and didn't batter Haye like he promised

[Simurgh]

Run? Haye was standing with his hands down right infront of Wlad throughout the fight

Wlad was to scared to unload because he didn't want to get countered

Wlad tasted Hayes power and caged up, I don't blame him, but he was **** scared to engage and didn't batter Haye like he promised

As 'tasting of Haye's power' happened in 12th round and Wlad caught Haye in 6th round I think Haye was the tentative one for a longer period of the fight.

Wlad fought a smart fight. Haye is an ambush fighter. Him putting his hands down was the part of tactics to get Wlad close enough and to do what he did to Chisora. Wlad is just too smart and too good to fall for that.

I don't know what Wlad felt and I really don't care. He schooled Haye and got a wide UD.

[FlatLine]

..It's Emanuel's strategy not a fear.

It is a strategy devised by Steward, but Steward was wary of Klitschko being knocked out again. It's rooted in fear, but it's a sensible strategy all the same because of Wlad's questionable chin. Lewis and Wlad can't be compared, Lewis was a far superior all-round fighter. Wlad has no inside game at all.

But this thread isn't about Lewis, it's about the Klitschko's fearing Haye.

Wladimir fought an extremely cautious fight against Haye due to fearing his power and speed. Vitali is too afraid to fight him just like Dempsey was too afraid to fight Sam Langford. Let's stay on subject. Charr is right about the Klitschko's.

[Barry Halls]

So Floyd is afraid of everyone he fights because he's also safety first? Sounds incredibly ridiculous.

Instead of worrying about HOW Klitschko got away with a lopsided decision maybe you should worry about why David Haye didn't take ANY risk despite losing.

Maybe he's scared of Wlad?

[Simurgh]

It is a strategy devised by Steward, but Steward was wary of Klitschko being knocked out again. It's rooted in fear, but it's a sensible strategy all the same because of Wlad's questionable chin. Lewis and Wlad can't be compared, Lewis was a far superior all-round fighter. Wlad has no inside game at all.

But this thread isn't about Lewis, it's about the Klitschko's fearing Haye.

Wladimir fought an extremely cautious fight against Haye due to fearing his power and speed. Vitali is too afraid to fight him just like Dempsey was too afraid to fight Sam Langford. Let's stay on subject. Charr is right about the Klitschko's.

lennox was knocked out as well. It's the right tactics regardless of chin quality. lennox was a better all-rounder fighter, but not a superior fighter. However not to go totally off topic.

Fear is not something one can measure. You can speculate Wlad is afraid and so on, but Wlad fought the best available opposition and he beat them all. I couldn't care less if he is afraid or not. I don't think he is, especially not of Haye.

Charr can be right only about Vitali not Wlad, but he is not. Vitali couldn't care less for Haye's fight and I really doubt he is afraid of david haye.

[FlatLine]

...maybe you should worry about why David Haye didn't take ANY risk despite losing.

Maybe he's scared of Wlad?

Of course Haye had some fear of Wlad, he was the much smaller man with huge size disadvantages. To step in the ring with those disadvantages is a brave act in itself.

But that doesn't take away from the fact that Wlad was scared of Haye and fought with extreme caution that night as if he was in there with a man twice his size.

[Simurgh]

Of course Haye had some fear of Wlad, he was the much smaller man with huge size disadvantages. To step in the ring with those disadvantages is a brave act in itself.

But that doesn't take away from the fact that Wlad was scared of Haye and fought with extreme caution that night as if he was in there with a man twice his size.

Wlad fought a smart fight and won with an ease. Your claim that he was afraid is just your speculation.

[White_Knight]

Haye's back was against the ropes the entire fight against Wladimir. It's as if he was leashed to the ropes. He was scuttling about the periphery of the ring, making faces and not punching. Maybe they had a secret reason for doing this: when Haye completed a lap of the ring and made it back to his corner Adam Booth applied the coldpress to his devastated toe for a second or 2 before Haye galloped off on another round.

Haye pulled out of 1 fight against Wladimir and 2 against Vitali. That is 3 fights all up. Say what you want, but those are facts.

As for Charr, he better cling on tight to those Ninja Turtle belts he's parading around because they're the only ones he'll get.

[White_Knight]

But that doesn't take away from the fact that Wlad was scared of Haye and fought with extreme caution that night as if he was in there with a man twice his size.

What the point in having a height advantage if you are not going to stay on outside and use it? I know you aren't the brightest member here, so I'll give you a couple of days to think about it.