Manuel Charr: "The Klitschkos' are afraid of Haye!" (Video)

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He promised to beat Haye to a pulp and teach him a lesson and give him a "pizza face" and to knock him out

Haye went there and landed more power punches on Wlad, that's just the facts. Wlad felt Hayes power and saw how fast he was and decided to just play it safe behind the jab.

He didn't give anything he promised.

I can't think of a fighter who would be able to 'catch' Haye when he is in 'running mode'. It would be extremely ****** to chase powerful, extremely fast ambush fighter. Especially when you can dominate it from the distance.

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I can't think of a fighter who would be able to 'catch' Haye when he is in 'running mode'. It would be extremely ****** to chase powerful, extremely fast ambush fighter. Especially when you can dominate it from the distance.

What round did Haye run in against Wlad? Please upload gif or YouTube link to support that excuse.

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I think pro boxer is rarely afraid going into the ring.
Saying that someone as destructive, successful and powerful as Wlad is 'afraid of everyone' is pure BS!

New to boxing?

Many, many pro boxers are afraid when they step in the ring because you can get killed in the ring. You are literally putting your life on the line. So it's not a criticism of Wlad, it's just a reality of combat. Surely you've heard/seen/read interviews with ex-fighters saying they were afraid when they stepped in the ring?

Here is a story about Jack Dempsey who admitted he was afraid of Sam Langford: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/ar.../t-432428.html

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New to boxing?

Many, many pro boxers are afraid when they step in the ring because you can get killed in the ring. You are literally putting your life on the line. So it's not a criticism of Wlad, it's just a reality of combat. Surely you've heard/seen/read interviews with ex-fighters saying they were afraid when they stepped in the ring?

Here is a story about Jack Dempsey who admitted he was afraid of Sam Langford: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/ar.../t-432428.html

He'll, Mike Tyson used to cry of fear before getting in the ring.

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What round did Haye run in against Wlad? Please upload gif or YouTube link to support that excuse.

Up to 6th round Haye was trying to close the gap, not very successfully. In the 6th round Wlad connected with right straight and from that moment David was pretty much in tentative mode.
In that mode it's extremely hard to catch David as he was focused on his defense and to not be knocked out - especially for Wlad who is a much bigger man.
He made some effort in 12th round but again in the second part of the 12th round Wlad was a better man.

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New to boxing?

Many, many pro boxers are afraid when they step in the ring because you can get killed in the ring. You are literally putting your life on the line. So it's not a criticism of Wlad, it's just a reality of combat. Surely you've heard/seen/read interviews with ex-fighters saying they were afraid when they stepped in the ring?

Here is a story about Jack Dempsey who admitted he was afraid of Sam Langford: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/ar.../t-432428.html

One thing is general fear that everything will go well, but it's a different thing when you say someone is afraid of every fighter. I don't think that person would be a pro boxer moreover an ATG boxer.

Tyson was afraid of being embarrassed by losing.

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One thing is general fear that everything will go well, but it's a different thing when you say someone is afraid of every fighter. I don't think that person would be a pro boxer moreover an ATG boxer.

Tyson was afraid of being embarrassed by losing.

The "general fear that everything will go well" is because you are afraid of the threat the opponent presents as a boxer. It's the same thing. Fear of your opponent. Wladimir is afraid of his opponents, besides maybe Mormeck, but nearly everyone else. That's the reason he fights that way and grabs or leans on his opponent to avoid getting into brawls. It's an effective style for him but it's rooted in fear.

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The "general fear that everything will go well" is because you are afraid of the threat the opponent presents as a boxer. It's the same thing. Fear of your opponent. Wladimir is afraid of his opponents, besides maybe Mormeck, but nearly everyone else. That's the reason he fights that way and grabs or leans on his opponent to avoid getting into brawls. It's an effective style for him but it's rooted in fear.

So Lennox was also afraid of everyone?

He used to hold and clinch just as much.

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So Lennox was also afraid of everyone?

He used to hold and clinch just as much.

Lewis did hold and clinch but nowhere near as much as Wlad. That's not to say Lewis didn't have moments of fear when he stepped in the ring, I'd say most boxers experience fear in the ring at some point or another.

But Wlad's style is rooted in fear. Lewis got into brawls with big guys at times, just watch the Vitali fight. But Wladimir is nearly always afraid to do that, even with much smaller opponents.

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Lewis did hold and clinch but nowhere near as much as Wlad. That's not to say Lewis didn't have moments of fear when he stepped in the ring, I'd say most boxers experience fear in the ring at some point or another.

But Wlad's style is rooted in fear. Lewis got into brawls with big guys at times, just watch the Vitali fight. But Wladimir is nearly always afraid to do that, even with much smaller opponents.

That's my point. Wlad rarely clinches against taller guys. Him clinching against smaller guys is Emanuel's strategy for tall fighters. I don't think that reflects fear. It's a strategy! Did Wlad clinched against Wach or Thompson?

You can't convince me that Wlad was more afraid of Mormeck and that's why he clinched more in that fight than against some taller fighter he fought and didn't clinch at all.

Lennox used to not only clinch and hold but also grab and push. He was even deducted a point for pushing Tyson and warned several times. It's Emanuel's strategy not a fear.