Manuel Charr: "The Klitschkos' are afraid of Haye!" (Video)

[Simurgh]

I usually think you are a sensible poster, but dude please.

70% of Vitali does not KO Haye. And if it did, them why not take the fight? Everybody knows that Wlad was on his best game the night he fought Haye. And he did fight a brilliant fight. I saw you post the other day that Wlad beats Haye 49/50 times. Lol

Yes, I do think Vitali KOs Haye more likely than Wlad. Vitali likes to engage more, he can take a few to give a few. Eventually he would catch Haye with something or Haye would gas out running around. That's my opinion.

I don't think Vitali is on his 70% anymore (I mean 70% of prime Vitali). Even the version of Vitali that KOed Herbie KOs Haye IMO.

Only way Haye beats Wlad is to KO him and I think that's extremely unlikely with the way how Haye fights and with Wlad's exceptional defense. It's hard to say exactly what are the chances but it's very unlikely (might be more or less than these 2%).

[yoz]

Yes, I do think Vitali KOs Haye more likely than Wlad. Vitali likes to engage more, he can take a few to give a few. Eventually he would catch Haye with something or Haye would gas out running around. That's my opinion.

I don't think Vitali is on his 70% anymore (I mean 70% of prime Vitali). Even the version of Vitali that KOed Herbie KOs Haye IMO.

Only way Haye beats Wlad is to KO him and I think that's extremely unlikely with the way how Haye fights and with Wlad's exceptional defense. It's hard to say exactly what are the chances but it's very unlikely (might be more or less than these 2%).

I'm still not convinced that Haye can take a punch at HW. The one Wladimir landed in round 4 or 5 scared him sh**less. From then on, he was afraid to engage.

[Simurgh]

I'm still not convinced that Haye can take a punch at HW. The one Wladimir landed in round 4 or 5 scared him sh**less. From then on, he was afraid to engage.

Exactly.
I don't think his chin is class, but Wlad's power is more than enough to put him to sleep. Wlad putting him to sleep is much more likely than other way around and everything between those two is wide UD for Wlad. That's why I think Haye's chances of winning are extremely low.

[FrankieBruno]

I'm still not convinced that Haye can take a punch at HW. The one Wladimir landed in round 4 or 5 scared him sh**less. From then on, he was afraid to engage.

Load of clobbers, it was the other way around, soon as Haye connected Wlad caged up

The mere fact Haye landed more power shots on Wlad sums up who was throwing more bombs

Wlad didn't come to fight, he came to jab and hold


Wlad put the bi*ch in the bi*chko sisters

[yoz]

Load of clobbers, it was the other way around, soon as Haye connected Wlad caged up

The mere fact Haye landed more power shots on Wlad sums up who was throwing more bombs

Wlad didn't come to fight, he came to jab and hold


Wlad put the bi*ch in the bi*chko sisters

But Wladimir's conservative - he didn't promise a war; Haye did.

Look, even against no-hopers like Mormeck, Wladimir clinched excessively. He can get away with it. Against Haye, though, they didn't tie up that much, and still, Haye couldn't put anything together.

[FlatLine]

Vitali is definitely afraid of Haye, even the Vitali fans I know personally don't deny it now after what's happened since Haye KO'd Chisora.

Wladimir is afraid of everyone, that's why he fighs the way he does, but you can't deny it works for him.

[Simurgh]

Wlad clinching when attacked (especially by the smaller guys) is the signature of Emanuel Steward. Lennox use to do it to just as much and I remember people saying that back then. It's cleaver thing to do if you are a big man fighting a smaller fast and mobile guy.

Haye connected with his signature right 'haymaker' - wasn't enough to seriously hurt Wlad. Wlad clinched, recovered quickly and finished the very same round on stronger note.

[Simurgh]

Vitali is definitely afraid of Haye, even the Vitali fans I know personally don't deny it now after what's happened since Haye KO'd Chisora.

Wladimir is afraid of everyone, that's why he fighs the way he does, but you can't deny it works for him.

I think pro boxer is rarely afraid going into the ring.
Saying that someone as destructive, successful and powerful as Wlad is 'afraid of everyone' is pure BS!

[FrankieBruno]

But Wladimir's conservative - he didn't promise a war; Haye did.

Look, even against no-hopers like Mormeck, Wladimir clinched excessively. He can get away with it. Against Haye, though, they didn't tie up that much, and still, Haye couldn't put anything together.

He promised to beat Haye to a pulp and teach him a lesson and give him a "pizza face" and to knock him out

Haye went there and landed more power punches on Wlad, that's just the facts. Wlad felt Hayes power and saw how fast he was and decided to just play it safe behind the jab.

He didn't give anything he promised.

[Simurgh]

But Wladimir's conservative - he didn't promise a war; Haye did.

Look, even against no-hopers like Mormeck, Wladimir clinched excessively. He can get away with it. Against Haye, though, they didn't tie up that much, and still, Haye couldn't put anything together.

Mormeck was attacking with his head all the time. Head to Wlad's chest. There is not much you can do when guy who is 7" smaller does that.