Canelo, Martinez vs Mayweather: When weight matters

[joesaiditstrue]

He isnt regaining it in 36 hours though, is he? Like I said, that takes longer. What you are saying is really quite silly. Where are you going with this? Ban fighters from fighting at a certain weight if they walk around higher? Ricky Hatton would have had to fight as a cruiser by your reckoning!

you're going off on a tangent here, weights matter. 20lb difference is enough to swing a fight, that's my point. I do not support weigh ins the day before the fight as not every fighter is artificially fighting outside their natural weight class

hatton is a fatass outside the ring, terrible comparison

[Kagami Taiga]

I specificly said Floyd because you can clearly see his body has grown through out the ages and theres no doubt in my mind he is not the weight he claims he's in the fighting ring. And you're correct this applys to a lot of fighters but people keep making excuses for Floyd because of weight! How girlish if you going to fight at a higher weight only when you think its safe. His fans may be more scared of Canelo than he is.

Vargas still holds the jr. middleweight record.

How girlish is it to pick on fighters 20lbs smaller than u? The same can be said easily. Have u ever fought someone 20lbs smaller? The only reason this is ok is because it is Floyd. If it was any other fighter, this would be a problem

[joesaiditstrue]

The problem in this logic is that Floyd then turns around and fights guys that fought 0, 1 or 2 fights at WW and all his fans say they were great fights that show that Floyd is the best.

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!!!

Once Floyd and his fans see risk, they begin to bring up excuses but when names such as Marquez who went up ~3 divisions, that was a good fight because Marquez was #2 P4P.

Well, Floyd has been #1 P4P for a while, his last fight was at 154 and Floyd said he wants to see his opponents come in at a comfortable weight ..... so no excuses!!!

Marquez fight was a difference of a couple pounds, nobody is calling the Guerrero fight a great fight

I don't see the comparisons here, how can you compare a 20lb effective weight advantage the same as Floyd fighting Guerrero at
147? bizarre

[Kagami Taiga]

Marquez fight was a difference of a couple pounds, nobody is calling the Guerrero fight a great fight

I don't see the comparisons here, how can you compare a 20lb effective weight advantage the same as Floyd fighting Guerrero at
147? bizarre

Its clear they've never boxed before and they don't understand the difference in 20lbs in the ring. Floyd has never outweighed an opponent by 20lbs. In fact the very few fights that I've seen that level of weight disrepancy are few and far between. One I clearly remember is a Gatti fight and that one ended horribly. Like I said if this wasn't Floyd, this wouldn't even be acceptable.

[ADP02]

Marquez fight was a difference of a couple pounds, nobody is calling the Guerrero fight a great fight

I don't see the comparisons here, how can you compare a 20lb effective weight advantage the same as Floyd fighting Guerrero at
147? bizarre

Bizarre? Last time I checked, both fighters need to make something called a weight limit. If they come in 20lbs heavier on fight night, it's accepted according to the boxing rules. Go look it up if you don't believe me.

Secondly, Floyd has a title there and his last fight was at 154.

Marquez: See this is why I will never buy your (Floyd fans) comparisons. Marquez was a 130 fighter who had just moved up to 135 and was asked to fight at 147 yet you guys are saying "that was just a few pounds difference"...... now that is bizarre logic!

Sorry but you lost the argument right there!!!

[-Kev-]

I was surprised with their fight night weights. That is just overkill. Imagine same day weigh in? Floyd would be a legit 147-154 pounder with same day weigh in, but most of these other guys from 154-160 would be Light Heavyweights. That is ridiculous.

I'd still put my money on Floyd against any 154 pounder, even those weighing 170+ on fight night. But good lord, that is some serious weight gain on fight night.

[Capncrunch]

Two fights at welterweights and now he's a legit welterweight...no.

He's just a fighter that is accepting the challenges fighting a bigger guy in Floyd the natural jr. middleweight.

this may be the dumbest post i've ever read in my life.

[Kagami Taiga]

Bizarre? Last time I checked, both fighters need to make something called a weight limit. If they come in 20lbs heavier on fight night, it's accepted according to the boxing rules. Go look it up if you don't believe me.

Secondly, Floyd has a title there and his last fight was at 154.

Marquez: See this is why I will never buy your (Floyd fans) comparisons. Marquez was a 130 fighter who had just moved up to 135 and was asked to fight at 147 yet you guys are saying "that was just a few pounds difference"...... now that is bizarre logic!

Sorry but you lost the argument right there!!!

Marquez was asked to fight at 147? I'm pretty sure he challenged Floyd at 147. Don't make **** up. And even with that said, Floyd did not outweigh him by 20lbs. That simply didn't happen

[joesaiditstrue]

Marquez wasn't asked to fight at 147, he called out Floyd for a pay day. get the facts straight for starters (you're painting this as Floyd picking on smaller fighters)

The "couple pounds" was referring to the weight difference that Floyd had over Marquez at the weigh in

You're basically saying its OK for a guy to ballon back up to his walking around weight of 170+ against a gut who can't even make the 154 limit, but it isn't OK to fight a guy who called you out for a fight at 147? yeah, head scratcher

[HanzGruber]

Marquez wasn't asked to fight at 147, he called out Floyd for a pay day. get the facts straight for starters (you're painting this as Floyd picking on smaller fighters)

The "couple pounds" was referring to the weight difference that Floyd had over Marquez at the weigh in

You're basically saying its OK for a guy to ballon back up to his walking around weight of 170+ against a gut who can't even make the 154 limit, but it isn't OK to fight a guy who called you out for a fight at 147? yeah, head scratcher

These guys just pull "facts" out of their ass to make them self feel better. How many guys that are relevant balloon up that much and get away with it. Ill tell you, cAnelo and Chavez jr. And they defend that garbage smh