Canelo, Martinez vs Mayweather: When weight matters

[bose]

Regarding the weight, if you go up in weight than fight when guys are calling you out. Floyd himself has fought a "lightweight" at welterweight so lets stop crying about weight (he's fighting another lightweight in Guerrero).

[joesaiditstrue]

You do understand how weight classes and making weight work? Its to ensure as level a playing field as possible and maintain safety. They may rehydrate in between the weigh in and the fight by however many pounds, but they dont miraculaously gain that in strength...that takes longer. If Floyd wants to be considered a LMW champion, then there is **** all wrong with fighting a LMW. If you can Make the weight, you are a LMW...simple.

canelo isn't gaining strength from rehydration, he's regaining what he lost for cutting down to 154

[joesaiditstrue]

Regarding the weight, if you go up in weight than fight when guys are calling you out. Floyd himself has fought a "lightweight" at welterweight so lets stop crying about weight (he's fighting another lightweight in Guerrero).

Guerrero is not a ****ing lightweight, stop being dense

[Kagami Taiga]

The simple fact is that canelo is not very good and the only reason most think he's a challenge for Floyd is Floyd has lost a step and Alvarez will outweigh him by 20lbs. If the two were the same size, this would be another cherry pick. I hope Floyd does fight him honestly. At the end of the day, the point remains the same tho. The only reason canelo even gets rated in this fight is because of his size and his age advantage. Of that's how ppl want Floyd to lose, then that says a lot.

[junior gong]

canelo isn't gaining strength from rehydration, he's regaining what he lost for cutting down to 154

He isnt regaining it in 36 hours though, is he? Like I said, that takes longer. What you are saying is really quite silly. Where are you going with this? Ban fighters from fighting at a certain weight if they walk around higher? Ricky Hatton would have had to fight as a cruiser by your reckoning!

[junior gong]

Guerrero is not a ****ing lightweight, stop being dense

Well he isnt a seasoned WW after two fights, is he?

[bose]

Same could then be said of any fighter, including Alvarez. Seriously, of u gonna make a conspiracy theory about one fighter, there's no reason u can't make them apply to them all especially a young hype job like alvarez

I specificly said Floyd because you can clearly see his body has grown through out the ages and theres no doubt in my mind he is not the weight he claims he's in the fighting ring. And you're correct this applys to a lot of fighters but people keep making excuses for Floyd because of weight! How girlish if you going to fight at a higher weight only when you think its safe. His fans may be more scared of Canelo than he is.

Vargas still holds the jr. middleweight record.

[HanzGruber]

Regarding the weight, if you go up in weight than fight when guys are calling you out. Floyd himself has fought a "lightweight" at welterweight so lets stop crying about weight (he's fighting another lightweight in Guerrero).

Lol ghost weighs more than Floyd just stop.

[ADP02]

Canelo weighed 172lbs, Floyd weighs 150 the day of the fight against Cotto, 151 vs DLH. Sergio is around 174 for his fights. Floyd isn't a JMW, I think brute forcing Floyd out of the ring by putting him up against a super middleweight/light heavyweight doesn't really prove anything if he were to lose to either guy. His skill alone would most likely handle Canelo but I would not bet money on Floyd winning either fight, and that doesn't take anything away from Floyd as a fighter

Some people are going to say he shouldn't have fought at 154 twice if he weren't willing to take the division seriously and I agree 100%, he shouldn't expect the fans and media to not criticize him for avoiding certain fights @154 since he fought there twice

But weight classes do matter, both Trout and Canelo are middleweights masquerading as JMW, let's stop pretending otherwise

The problem in this logic is that Floyd then turns around and fights guys that fought 0, 1 or 2 fights at WW and all his fans say they were great fights that show that Floyd is the best.

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!!!

Once Floyd and his fans see risk, they begin to bring up excuses but when names such as Marquez who went up ~3 divisions, that was a good fight because Marquez was #2 P4P.

Well, Floyd has been #1 P4P for a while, his last fight was at 154 and Floyd said he wants to see his opponents come in at a comfortable weight ..... so no excuses!!!

[bose]

Guerrero is not a ****ing lightweight, stop being dense

Two fights at welterweights and now he's a legit welterweight...no.

He's just a fighter that is accepting the challenges fighting a bigger guy in Floyd the natural jr. middleweight.