So what exactly won Canelo the fight???

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  • The Evil 1-2
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    #21
    Originally posted by Cupocity303
    Yes, he actually did control the pace of the fight. I've made this point in several posts now. RING GENERALSHIP was Canelo's all the way, with his defense to occasional offense. It was Trout that never looked like he had any control in the fight.


    Yes, he did hurt him. But of course you had to cherry pick and add an additional stipulation like the one below, which I'm about to respond to.





    This is reverse logic. It's actually the opposite. Did Trout do enough in terms of activity to offset all the Ring Generalship, from defense and making Trout miss to offense that put him on his ass and was landed much cleaner.

    And the answer is no.
    Good Lord almighty. I'm assuming you're a fan of B-Hop and yet, you couldn't see that Trout was the one exhibiting Ring Generalship.

    Trout was the BUSIER fighter, especially with his jab. Knowing that he was going to be robbed after the 4th, he was the PRIMARY aggressor, which should have been Canelo's modus operandi (MO)...

    Don't let that ONE KD skew your perceptions...

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    • Weebler I
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      #22
      Originally posted by 4Corners
      Really??? He controlled the pace of the majority of the rounds??? Even Canelo's best round of the whole fight, the 7th when he floored Trout early, he was out fought the rest of the round.
      Outlanded maybe, but every time he hit Trout again in that round Trout's legs were shaky and he looked ready to go.

      There is a case for Trout winning, but what I'm seeing from your posts is that you don't see a case for Canelo winning that most others see e.g. below

      Ishe Smith ‏@IsheSugarShay 42m
      There was no question who won, I thought it was an excellent fight, but Canelo won IMO, had it 116-111

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      • cupocity303
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        #23
        Originally posted by 4Corners
        Trout out worked him the whole fight, and Canelo didn't land enough big shots throughout the course of most of the rounds, to really change the round.

        Trout brought the fight the whole time and kept the fight at his distance most of the entire fight. Canelo literally did nothing for 80% of the fight.
        But of course he did. 80% if of course an exaggeration. And you mentioned Ring Generalship in your opening post.

        That's part of doing something. I.E. effective defense. He almost mocked Trout with his defense in one of the rounds. It was that obvious to the viewer.

        I literally didn't pay any attention to what Trout was doing, even when Canelo wasn't throwing punches. That's because Trout was ineffective and even during the inactive periods, one paid attention to the work Canelo was putting in defensive, ducking punches while standing right in front of Trout.

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        • BoxingFollower
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          #24
          Originally posted by BudHeavy
          maybe a KD
          maybe the ring generalshio
          maybe the clean punching
          maybe the harder punches
          maybe the better defense
          maybe the better ebb and flow
          maybe the fact is just was better then trout on this night, even trout admitted it.

          I never seen people cry about a fight where the person who lost admits defeats and still the groupies dont beleive it.

          What makes you think he didnt lose when Austin Trout himself admits he lost?
          Its called being a class act...no excuses...not about judging, weight, age, reffing

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          • cupocity303
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            #25
            Originally posted by The Weebler II
            Outlanded maybe, but every time he hit Trout again in that round Trout's legs were shaky and he looked ready to go.

            There is a case for Trout winning, but what I'm seeing from your posts is that you don't see a case for Canelo winning that most others see e.g. below
            And this is all I'm saying myself. My posts may come off strong, but that's just tactics to offset the "It was a clear robbery/ Clearly Trout won but there is no way Canelo could've won" crowd.

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            • 4Corners
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              #26
              Originally posted by Cupocity303
              But of course he did. 80% if of course an exaggeration. And you mentioned Ring Generalship in your opening post.

              That's part of doing something. I.E. effective defense. He almost mocked Trout with his defense in one of the rounds. It was that obvious to the viewer.

              I literally didn't pay any attention to what Trout was doing, even when Canelo wasn't throwing punches. That's because Trout was ineffective and even during the inactive periods, one paid attention to the work Canelo was putting in defensive, ducking punches while standing right in front of Trout.
              So you can land 2-3 good shots a round, get out thrown 20-30 punches a round, take off 60-80% of the round (no not an exaggeration, see any of the rounds after the 4th), and win the round???

              I guess we can agree to disagree. I honestly didn't feel it was a hard fight to score.

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                #27
                Originally posted by 4Corners
                Really??? He controlled the pace of the majority of the rounds??? Even Canelo's best round of the whole fight, the 7th when he floored Trout early, he was out fought the rest of the round.
                Just because a fighter is throwing meaningless jabs doesn't mean hes controlling the fight or even boxing for that matter. Just means hes throwing meaningless jabs. You aren't even taking into account the defensive display shown by Canelo tonight. But if it were any other fighter, he'd be getting high praise. When Canelo wanted to, he proved to be the superior fighter. It wasn't a robbery of any sorts.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by 4Corners
                  Canelo threw like 420 something punches, Trout threw like 700 something, he was pretty close to twice and active.

                  There was one knockdown, and that was really the only round Canelo had Trout hurt, and even then.....Trout out worked and did the better work the rest of the round.

                  You can't win a round fighting hard for 30-45 seconds, when your opponent is throwing 20-30 more punches in the round, when you only land a couple good shots. Unless those shots really change the round, like the 7th.
                  Most of his punches were pitty pat jabs. I had no idea pitty pad jabs won you fights.

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #29
                    Trout pawed his jab from 10 feet away and then slapped when he was near rarely making contact. Boxing is 95% about landing the cleanest more effective punches. Running around and Jabbing into the air cannot win rounds, neither can "controlling the fight" or simply having a better work rate. Trout was a Calzaghe-Judah hybrid tonight, pawing on the outside and slapping on the inside. Why trout went full feather fist pawer is a wonder to me. He was scared

                    I still had it 6 rounds a piece an neither guy looked good. Fight was a letdown

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 4Corners
                      His power changed one round......one round.
                      you are seriously delusional, trout was hurt numerous times in the fight, "numerous"

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